Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faculty of Chemistry of Lodz University of Technology


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The result was redirect to Lodz University of Technology. Can be merged from the history as may be desired. Consensus is that it's not notable enough for an article.  Sandstein  12:57, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Faculty of Chemistry of Lodz University of Technology

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Does not pass WP:GNG on its own. No independent sources in article. Delete or merge with Lodz University of Technology. Jbh (talk) 11:23, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge. Not worthy of a stand-alone article. TYelliot  &#124;  Talk  &#124;  Contribs  11:47, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Other departments do not have their own articles, so adding the chemistry faculty to the main article would place undue weight on that field. My perspective on notability, as a chemist, is that Lodz has a medium to large staff. I don't recognize any faculty members myself, but the institution does have a notable presence in the field. Also, since the article is a list of faculty members, a reference to the appropriate website is all that's really needed, as that presumably provides verifiable information about history and statistics. At any rate, the lack of references does not merit deletion. Roches (talk) 12:15, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Other departments do not have their own articles, so adding the chemistry faculty to the main article would place undue weight on that field is borderline WP:OTHERSTUFF and at any rate easy to solve (add them too; if chemistry is worth adding but not the others for some reason, then no undue weight problems; and if chemistry is not worth adding, delete instead of merging).
 * The lack of references is not a reason for deletion but the inexistence of sources is. Although the absence of evidence is not proof of absence, it's still some indication hence the WP:BURDEN guideline. Tigraan (talk) 14:06, 23 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment References are needed to establish notability per WP:NRV. The individual faculty members do not contribute to notability per WP:NOTINHERITED WP:ORGSIG . If it is WP:UNDUE to merge then it should be deleted rather than merged. Jbh (talk) 12:59, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

By "undue weight" I mean that this article would represent more than half of Lodz University of Technology after a merge. If other faculties don't have articles, it's not because they're not notable. Many articles for American universities have separate articles for parts of the institution.

If it's not clear, "Faculty of Chemistry" does not mean the academics themselves. It is a subdivision equivalent to a department at a U.S. university, and the word "department" is used for a group of related researchers, which is not normally a formal group at American schools. In the U.S., "faculty" is the next higher level above a department, as in "Faculty of Arts and Science". Roches (talk) 17:02, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I added some relevant details to List of Universities in Poland, definitions of what are called "academies" (for arts) and "technical universities" (which are like universities that only teach physical sciences and engineering). It's nothing whatsoever like a technical school in the U.S.

If any editor here can read Polish or wants to machine-translate, the website almost certainly has a media or press page that will list recent mentions of the faculty in secondary sources. The English version seems to be missing one. Roches (talk) 04:19, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


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 * Delete or merge. No evidence of independent notability from its parent university, and no third-party coverage of a type that would satisfy Notability (organizations and companies). —David Eppstein (talk) 00:03, 25 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. So we should delete all these faculties that are not completely independent: University of Sydney, University of Zagreb, University of Montenegro, McGill University, University of Belgrade, Faculties and institutions of University of Peradeniya, McMaster University and much more? In fact, they have high self-reliance, have their own history, have their own scientific research, dozens of full professors and thousands of students. Chrumps (talk) 08:52, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, unless they can show they have independent notability. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:11, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge to Lodz University of Technology. As written, it fails to show any independent notability (only ref is to its own webpage). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:11, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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