Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fairfield Public School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

Fairfield Public School
The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) ‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ Broc (talk) 08:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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Per WP:NSCHOOL and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, there is no inherent notability for primary schools, and there is no significant coverage in independent sources to fulfill WP:NCORP. Broc (talk) 15:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools,  and Australia. Shellwood (talk) 15:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: As someone who created the article my vote is obvious. First off all, I think Wikipedia should have articles on many establishments, especially if they're built in the 19th century (like this school in subject). Second, how is the school any more or less notable than Fairfield High School? Okay, now that is a high school and rules are applied differently for secondary schools. What about Arncliffe Public School? There is only ONE source for that school, and the article is still around. I believe people, habitually, just haven't created more articles for elementary schools. Perhaps we need more users creating primary school articles (since they rarely do). So, I started with Fairfield Public School. Oh, furthermore, I will find and gather more sources for the article, as the article is still in its infancy stages. Yucalyptus (talk) 00:47, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Yucalyptus please avoid WP:WHATABOUTX arguments, as we are here to discuss this specific page and not other ones. You can still nominate those for deletion if you think they don't belong on Wikipedia. The page you created needs to fulfill WP:ORGCRITE, namely needs to have received significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. If you think said coverage exist, I can withdraw the nomination and move the page to draft, to give you time for improvement. Let me know. Broc (talk) 06:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. I'm aware of Wikipedia's What About X rule. I believe that this argument is usually used in the sense that "if both are bad, then both should exist" - Which I did NOT mean to convey at all. My main point is that not all articles are perfect on Wikipedia, and that we should strive to improve them (such as the Arncliffe example), instead of deleting them. So far, the article in subject has had coverage on The Daily Telegraph. So I have included that source for it. I will try to find more, of course. Let's hope books will be next (since the school is one of the oldest establishments in Fairfield CBD, so books might mention it). Cheers. Yucalyptus (talk) 08:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Comment (leaning draftify) - I don't thing SCHOOLOUTCOMES is relevant. Primary schools always had to pass WP:GNG or WP:NORG, and still do. SCHOOLOUTCOMES just puts all schools in the same position. I also note that this was nominated just over an hour after its creation, with no discussion, and that the initial creation was quite significant. Moving to draft would have been better here, and I definitely would favour draftify over deletion, whatever searches show up. My initial searches find an eponymous American school which will complicate searching. Yucalyptus, we need to demonstrate that this school has significant coverage in independent reliable secondary sources. If we had those I would move from draftify to keep.  Being as this is in Australia, wouldn't a 135 year old school be conisdered quite historically significant? Are you aware of any published histories about it or perhaps about its founding? Books are ideal, but that kind of article in journals or magazines, or even a section in a newspaper would all be in scope. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Good call. I did mention books earlier as this is an old school in Sydney (and one of the oldest establishments in Fairfield) – So Sydney-based/Aussie books throughout the 20th century could surely give it a nod. I'll try and look for books to use as sources. Cheers. Yucalyptus (talk) 08:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep withdrawing nomination per above comments. Draftifying until sources showing WP:NCORP are added. Broc (talk) 08:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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