Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/False Mirror


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. The lack of discussion means this is a no-consensus close, with no prejudice against a renomination. -- Lear's Fool 15:02, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

False Mirror

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Queried speedy delete Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't see what the problem with the article is. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Albums not on important label. Existing refs are False Mirrors own page, a webzine and two about some software he uses that don't mention him. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:34, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. I'm the author of the article, so I don't know if I'm really legitimate to join this discussion. The artist/band has been featured and reviewed in some major print magazines here in Germany (Orkus, Sonic Seducer, Zillo), which I see as a criterion for "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.". However I have problems to refer to these articles - they are not available online (however some of them can be found on the artist's webpage), so I left them out and I therefore only referred to one online review as an example. Please advise me how to correct that. I know that the relevance of most bands/artists in the Dark ambient genre is debatable, but in my opinion we should allow at least some of them. The problem is that both the Dark ambient article and the List of dark ambient artists are highly inaccurate because most of the bands/groups/artists listed are rather metal/etc bands, with merely some (minor!) influences of Dark Ambient. My aim was to improve the main article Dark Ambient by first adding a couple of articles for bands. I also created the article for Kammarheit and have an article for Northaunt finished (though not published yet because of this discussion). I also collect sources for a couple of other Dark Ambient groups (Svartsinn, Phelios, Gustaf Hildebrand)... In my humble opinion, we'd need much more articles for the Dark Ambient genre (and of course for all other genres as well), I see no problem with relevance here. Maybe we should add the 'this article is a stub' information? Thanks for listening to my opinion. PS: It took quite a long time to find good sources for these artists, so it really is depressing if an article is speedy deleted... Birchhunter (talk) 23:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:52, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.