Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fame Kills: Starring Kanye West and Lady Gaga (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. v/r - TP 02:32, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Fame Kills: Starring Kanye West and Lady Gaga
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DELETE= This article should be deleted as it is about a tour that never happened. It is, in essence, a list of tour dates that never occurred with a few tibits of information. It was deleted before, so I don't know why it's been recreated. All of the relevant information is already in The Monster Ball Tour article. SplashScreen (talk) 16:48, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * PREVIOUS DELETION = Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fame Kills: Starring Lady Gaga and Kanye West SplashScreen (talk) 16:50, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Although cancelled, the planned tour has adequate sourcing to meet WP:GNG. Rlendog (talk) 20:50, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - It never happened, and all the information can be found on other Kanye and Gaga articles, like SplashScreen said, like on The Fame Monster Ball Tour. The fact that it has already been deleted once shows that it shouldn't have created again (unless the tour actually happened, which it didn't). If it was any other singer, then it wouldn't have been created again, so I don't see this should be an exception. Calvin  &bull; Talk That Talk  00:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. First off, SplashScreen, as the creator and primary contributor of this article, I should have been notified of this discussion. A tour not taking place does not mean that it isn't notable. As noted by Rlendog, this article has adequate sourcing and thus passes the GNG. Furthermore, when this article was deleted the first time around, there was hardly any information other than a list of dates. This has much more information regarding the tour and its development and planning. –Chase (talk / contribs) 00:20, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

DELETE= This show never happened, its not like we create a page for the bionic tour, a canceled tour by christina aguilera. Its not like we should create a page for her name is nicole, and canceled album by nicole scherzinger. This page should be deledeted, because this material never happended, and monster ball was replaced. why have a page of something that never happened?? --Mathiassandell (talk) 12:13, 12 November 2011 (UTC) Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Mathiassandell (talk • contribs) has been canvassed to this discussion.
 * Why have a page for something that never took place? Because it was notable as shown by the number of references throughout the article. Your WP:WAX arguments fall flat because the Bionic Tour and Nicole Scherzinger's album were not as notable or as covered in reliable sources as this. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:10, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: The nominator, User:SplashScreen, has been canvassing by only informing users who have expressed concern about the notability of the article of this discussion. Even I, the creator and primary contributor of the article, was not notified. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:19, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * After you expressed concerns about not being notified, I felt it was right to inform other who had contributed to the page and its talk page. What's wrong with that? SplashScreen (talk) 21:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem is that you only notified people who had posted on the talk page saying that the tour is not notable and that this article should be deleted. You didn't notify me or anyone who had contributed to the article. –Chase (talk / contribs) 21:39, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep It's notable enough on its own. — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs  00:45, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. It meets WP:GNG and it's not like there are any separate guidelines (like WP:NMUSIC) standing in it's way... | help dןǝɥ  | 04:07, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete – I cannot believe that something which never took place has a page! All this page needs is a section on The Monsterball Tour. Its completely ridiculous that a thing that never existed and was only at planning stage is being discussed. This page lacks notability and needs to be deleted.  J W A D  Communicate|Nicely 09:24, 13 November 2011 (UTC) Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Jwad (talk • contribs) has been canvassed to this discussion.
 * Several editors have said that this passes the WP:GNG, so it would be appreciated if you could expand on why you think this isn't notable. Something doesn't have to have taken place for it to be notable. –Chase (talk / contribs) 17:24, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Delete. Whilst it's notable that the planned concerts and their subsequent cancellations occurred, this is not notable in its own right. The relevant information is included on The Monster Ball Tour. Pretty sure that the article's existence violates WP:RPDA. 188.220.151.140 (talk) 22:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No, actually, it doesn't. The article was originally deleted when the tour was just cancelled. And it was a pretty small article. — Status  &#x7B;talk contribs  02:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep – The version presented in the previous AFD was just pure crap. This is a much more worthy and notable version, passing our criterias for inclusion in WP. Oh and the nominators sockpuppetry and canvassing is just laughable. — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 10:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

this is unbeliveble that we have a page for something that does not extist, yes the tour can be mentioned briefly on lady gaga biography or the monster ball, but have a page whit tour dates???? i dont get it, and have it listed in lady gaga temple, and in her tour chronology, when only the the fame ball and the monster ball should be listed! this much info about something that got canceled is so unnecessary! --Mathiassandell (talk) 18:51, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You've already !voted. Removed the bolded "delete" at the beginning of this comment. –Chase (talk / contribs) 23:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

KeepI believe this article barely passes notability Elektrik  Band  00:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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