Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fame city waterworks


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. North America1000 09:08, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Fame city waterworks

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 * Note: Article was moved during AFD from "Fame city waterworks" to "Fame City Waterworks" by me. -- do ncr  am  14:21, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * And try also the following (and try adding Houston or Beechnut to the search after starting it may help):
 * And try also the following (and try adding Houston or Beechnut to the search after starting it may help):


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Not notable. I don't believe CSD:A7 applies to buildings so bringing it here. Pishcal — ♣ 18:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn by nominator - Upon a review of the sources in the article, the history water park and of the sources and reasons given by User:Doncram, I don't believe that deleting the article is appropriate at this time. Pishcal  — ♣ 21:56, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:33, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:33, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, tentatively. "Not notable" is not a rationale for deletion;  it is circular.  Has wp:BEFORE been performed.  Note there was a New York Times article just about it and its $40 million cost, cited in article.  Could someone find a link to an online version of that?  Amusement parks and even individual roller-coasters and other rides at amusement parks often/usually are Wikipedia-notable, certainly being related to their being popular and hence also covered in media.  It was known as Funplex and then Adventure Bay previously.  Rides included tTe "Rio Lento", the "Gulf Stream", the "Master Blaster", and "Pirates Cove".  Chados Brothers was an owner.  Searching on the previous names and rides will likely provide more hits within on-line coverage. -- do  ncr  am  17:07, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Having just one article, of course, for the amusement park and its successor (the new Fun Plex?) makes sense. Here's one 2013 article: Fun Plex under investigation.  That is about the same place;  while the waterworks is gone, the FunPlex continues.
 * this page about Campanile on Eldridge has helpful map and explains that Fame City was an original amusement park(?), and Fame City Waterworks its associated waterpark next door. Fame City eventually became Funplex. Fame City and Fame City Waterworks "eventually split ways, with FCW becoming Adventure Bay."  Adventure Bay closed for good after the 2005 season, was demolished, and most of it was redeveloped as low-income (affordable) senior living apartments, known as Campanile on Eldridge.  All seem to be on Beechnut Street in Houston. -- do  ncr  am  17:32, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Highbeam news article on Chado Brothers. Fame City "cost $21 million when it opened in July 1986 and drew one million people its first year." Park was mostly Iranian-owned. Related to FunPlex in Colorado and a Fame City since built in Turkey.
 * An alternative in-between keeping and deleting would be to move the info into a proper list of current and defunct amusement parks in the United States with descriptions (so not List of amusement parks in the Americas and also not List_of_defunct_amusement_parks), and redirect to that entry. -- do ncr  am  17:49, 9 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Not notable is a rationale for deletion, see WP:DEL-REASON. Looking through google news I found that most sources that mentioned it were only trivial, mentioning it as a place that some other incident occurred. However, there were a few articles of which had more than a trivial mention, namely this and the one that you also found, this. As for the sources that you've found, I don't think wikimapia is a reliable source. Pishcal  — ♣ 21:02, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for putting forward another article, but that is about another FunPlex pretty far away though, here is its location on Q St., unfortunately.
 * Of course an AFD should be all about notability. What I meant was wp:NOTNOTABLE, the mere assertion with no evidence;  that is a listed "argument to avoid".  (An equally convincing counter-assertion to "it's not notable!" is "it's NOTABLE!".)  I asked whether wp:BEFORE had been performed, and I had concern that any searching done might have only used one of the names of the place (e.g. searching on Fame City Waterworks but not Fame City would be inadequate).  I don't suppose there is a notability guideline specifically about visitor attractions, though perhaps there should be one, and a place costing more than $U.S. 10 million or drawing 1 million people in one year would meet that guideline (i would think, if it existed).  In general though, as a visitor attraction, I expect that there is plenty of documentation about it under its original and previous names Fame City and Fame City Waterworks and the Adventure Bay, but not necessarily on-line because it has not existed under those names for a long time now...it is out of the news.  cheers, -- do  ncr  am  22:26, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:38, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment Renaming the article to "Fame City" to more clearly allow coverage of larger attraction is also possible.  I "voted" Keep above. -- do  ncr  am  14:21, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.