Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Family tree of Abd Shams ibn al-Manaf


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Johnleemk | Talk 14:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Family tree of Abd Shams ibn al-Manaf

 * Delete per WP:NOT, in particular number 6 on genealogical entries. Also has no sources. Jersey Devil 21:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Source or delete, at least per WP:V, and i'm not sure this passes WP:N either. Muslim Guild, please comment. Alba 23:21, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * keep per Articles for deletion/Family tree of Uthman ibn Affan and Category:Muslim family trees. Verifiablity is covered in the link of each individual. for the recod, this is Jersey Devils 25'th afd on a Muslim article in less than 3 weeks.
 * Sign your posts, User:Striver! Alba 01:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - This can be Jersey Devils nth AfD for a Muslim article but this is simply not the way to present this information. There is still no dynastic family tree for the most notable of the early Muslim leaders - see Articles for deletion/Family tree of Abdullah ibn Abbas for my suggestion - Focus Striver, focus! Green Giant 02:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

You mean Sahaba's ancestors?--Striver 02:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh, you meant the other five you claimed that i didnt had created a article for, when i in fact had done so? --Striver 02:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I am fully aware of the five separate family trees but what I mean is that you should have a single family tree with all five highlighted and then various relations around them. Green Giant 03:33, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge if there is something to merge. Family tree snapshots for every person isn't helpful to the reader. I don't know about the notability of the person, is his only claim that his great-great-(some-amount-of-greats)-grandson was notable? The Abd Shams ibn Abd al-Manaf article itself looks like something that would be more informative in proper context, i.e. a family tree (NOT separate family tree for each person, one family tree). Weregerbil 11:10, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, more middle-eastern familycruft. — Mar. 29, '06 [07:07] <[ freakofnurxture]|[ talk]>


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.