Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Far-right politics in the United States


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Anyone interested in userfying can contact me Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 18:37, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Far-right politics in the United States

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First off, this has no sources at all, and no effort has been made to add them. Most of these may be far-right, but credible sources are required. Without them, this mostly serves as a place to add one's bias against a politician. The title is misleading as well; this is a list of supposed 'Far-right' parties. Also, there is not 'Far-left politics in the United States' article.  TN  05  23:20, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete The information found on the page is not sourced at all and it seems to me to mostly be original research.-- Steam   Iron  23:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Nothing's stopping you or any other editor from adding sources. Stonemason89 (talk) 01:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't Delete It may be unsourced, but is there a way to save the article somehow (or at least move its information to another relevant page)? I know some things about far-left politics in the United States, and would be willing to contribute or start a page on that (though I would need some help, as I've never created a page or cited references before). 71.184.241.77 (talk) 00:53, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Userifying would work, and I've suggested it as an alternative; see below. Stonemason89 (talk) 01:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. Appears to be a redundant page containing only a list of organisations. Perhaps we could re-direct the article to the United States section of Neo-fascism. - Reconsider !  04:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment this either needs to be deleted, or renamed as "list of far right us political organizations". it mostly duplicates the category (with no content to justify it as an article), but thats ok for a list, as some people prefer list navigation to category navigation.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 08:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice. The subject is perhaps worthy of an encyclopedia article (and may well be covered elsewhere) but the "far right" label is too meta to be supported simply by an unreferenced list coupled with an unreferenced intro labelling certain belief systems like "nativism" to be "far right".  The non-existence of Far-left politics in the United States is not a reason to delete this; if a good article can be made here, it can be made there. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a list, not an article, and declares itself to be such in its opening sentence.  It is highly NPOV, and does not fit its title at all--I would have never guessed that this was going to be a list of parties and groups (why are individuals and incidents excluded?).  The inclusion of the Nazi Lowriders only underscores the NPOV aspect, and following that link to our article on them makes me wonder whether that also needs to be addressed--it simultaneously describes them as "white supremacist" and allied with several Mexican gangs.  If they're allied with Mexican gangs, are they really white supremacist?  Is a biker gang really political, and as such, worthy of inclusion here?  So, delete, as inappropriate and unsalvageable.  No prejudice against an actual article (rather than a list) being created in this space.  Heather (talk) 15:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Nazi Lowriders is another article. How is your disagreement with the way that article is written relevant to the discussion about this one? Stonemason89 (talk) 01:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, labeling individuals as far-right (as opposed to groups) runs into issue with WP: BLP. Stonemason89 (talk) 01:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * And, if you don't agree with the inclusion of Nazi Lowriders, just be bold and remove the mention of it from this page. It's no reason to go to AFD over! Stonemason89 (talk) 01:50, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:46, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:46, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep — This is a valid list. There is probably a POV issue with the title, which needs to be mitigated. Carrite (talk) 19:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - I initially created this article as a stub and an attempt to mirror Far-right politics in New Zealand; the reason why I never got around to expanding it was because I was busy with off-wiki tasks at the time. If the lack of prose/sources is an issue, there's nothing stopping Toa Nidhiki or any other editor from adding them. My vote is Keep. However, if this article doesn't pass the AFD discussion, I would be willing to have it userified to my name space, giving me the freedom to expand it and then re-add it in the future once it's been expanded. That would be an acceptable outcome too, if I end up getting outvoted. Stonemason89 (talk) 01:43, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete and userify until reliable secondary sources can be found.   talk 01:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.