Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fardad Fateri (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 20:19, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Fardad Fateri
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I did a thorough analysis of the page's sources (please, see the Talk page "Proposed improvement or deletion of the page" and found that there is not even one article with in-depth coverage of the subject.The article about Fardad Fateri was created in 2013 when the standards for sources were not followed properly. I checked the last nomination for deletion (no consensus) and found out that even the creator of the page Cbryant23 agreed that the page was not notable but forgot to vote accordingly, offering to speedily delete the page. I thoroughly checked the articles’ references and didn’t find any publications that can qualify to prove notability of the executive. Per WP’ requirement we need 3 in-depth articles about Fardad Fateri but there is not even one that can meet the requirement. The article is also poorly referenced and doesn’t cite the sources properly. Onetimememorial (talk) 18:25, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * For everyone's convenience, here is the link the analysis I did:

--Onetimememorial (talk) 23:16, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fardad_Fateri#Proposed_improvement_or_deletion_of_the_page
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Iran. Shellwood (talk) 18:38, 5 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment - I'm torn on this one. There's a long history of apparent WP:COI with the editors on this article trying to whitewash criticism, and deleting this article would serve in removing justifiably negative coverage of Fateri - especially since this article is the top Google search result for his name. However, I am also not finding any significant reliably sourced coverage of Fateri. There are a couple that mention his name and a couple sentences about his work background, but they're trivial mentions. If this article is deleted, I would at the very least recommend a lot of scrutiny on International_Education_Corporation and his other affiliated organizations to ensure they're not also suffering from COI. PDXBart (talk) 19:19, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * PDXBart, I believe that notability of the page for Fardad Fateri and his involvement with International_Education_Corporation are two different issues and both have to be resolved in separate. If Fardad Fateri is found not notable to have a separate page on Wikipedia, then some of the information can be merged with other relevant pages including International_Education_Corporation.--Onetimememorial (talk) 17:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment  Onetimememorial, AFD is not a vote, but instead a discussion, and the closer reads the statements and closes based on their strengths. Cbryant23 commented in the previous discussion; it is irrelevant whether they specifically summarized their position with a keyword such as "keep". It's also not their WP:OWN page, so it's only of minor relevance what they now think of it. I note that much of their original content was excised editorially as being inappropriate; I'll WP:AGF that they now have second thoughts about the subject itself, but one might reasonbly say that "the article they wrote" isn't really this one. DMacks (talk) 20:28, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree that this is not a voting but rather opinions sharing. I meant that the creator of the page reacted weird by offering to speedily delete the page after PROD, which speaks about their lack of knowledge about Wikipedia basic rules. However, AFD process requires me to notify the original creator of the page regardless of their level of contribution — and so I did. --Onetimememorial (talk) 17:50, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge. Other than the LA Times piece (number 4, from 1998) there is no in-depth coverage on him in reliable sources that could be used to pass WP:GNG. Even the LA Times piece appears to predate his professional career and has no relation to any of the other claims to notability. He doesn't appear to qualify for WP:AUTHOR either, since I don't see any of his works being discussed or reviewed by any notable publications. His PhD dissertation is his most cited work, with a grand total of 3 citations on Google Scholar. Being CEO of International Education Corporation is not enough to pass WP:BUSINESSPERSONOUTCOME. As for the legal actions against the IEC, I think the guidelines from WP:NOTWHOSWHO are relevant: "Even when an event is notable, individuals involved in it may not be. Unless news coverage of an individual goes beyond the context of a single event, our coverage of that individual should be limited to the article about that event, in proportion to their importance to the overall topic." The coverage of the action against IEC seems only to contain passing mentions of the subject, so it may be worth merging some of the content from this article to International Education Corporation.Chagropango (talk) 06:54, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with the analysis of the nominator. I realize now that Wikipedia's standards of notability are much higher than I thought at the time when I created and published this page. It is very different now from my original version. Also, the reviewing standards in 2013 were not so good as they are now, so this article wouldn't stand a chance in 2022.
 * Edit summary: Delete. -Cbryant23 Cbryant23 (talk) 04:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:BUSINESSPERSONOUTCOME, WP:AUTHOR, WP:GNG and WP:BIO Kazanstyle (talk) 08:54, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Lacks sources other than LA Times article fails WP:GNG and WP:AUTHOR.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:28, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.