Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Faredoon Driver


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 20:56, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Faredoon Driver

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I fail to see an iota of notability of the subject and non-trivial significant coverage about it, except in the biographical hagiography of Meher Baba and self-sources.He existed and might have been too proximate to have breath roughly the same composition of air......But, notability isn't inherited and he fails our notability criterion by a mile.

Part of a walled garden around Meher Baba.Nukable mess.

This t/p thread may provide some nackgound aspects on the issue. ~ Winged Blades Godric 05:45, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  ~ Winged Blades Godric  05:46, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 12:58, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

* Merge to Mandali per discussion in Articles for deletion/Kitty Davy. Hoverfish Talk 14:25, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Delete, per comments and discussion below of people knowledgable about the topic'. This was one of Meher Baba's closest disciples, and lived with him for 47 years. This is one of a large amount of nominations of Meher Baba topics, with language in the noms and on talk pages reading out as very biased against keeping Wikipedia's Baba collection intact and complete. I have no idea why this deletion storm has occurred, but I've seldom if ever seen such a thing on Wikipedia (luckily I stay away from the deletion corner of Wikipedia a vast majority of the time, so this might be more common that I think. It's quite time-consuming to have to write on every page while the nominator has copy pasted his nom from page to page to page). I have to say again, to not be accused of some kind of cult activity, that I am not a member of any Meher Baba group, do not know anyone who is or is a fan of him, and I have never read his books aside from a few pages once or twice. I've done some edits on the subject but only on my regular edit runs. For me it's just that a good collection of Wikipedia articles on a particular topic seems to be the object of a deletion focus which includes very negative and obviously biased language, which I don't think is how these things are supposed to go. Randy Kryn (talk) 18:45, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That you stay away from the deletion corner is the sole reason, why you are so fundamentally unaware of our inclusionary standards and guidelines of GNG.
 * At any case, I'm glad, to know that Meher Baba is so powerful that his closest disciples do not need any non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources, (not connected with Baba's biographies et al) to get a standalone article.I guess that they are kind of auto-notable.... Eh?!
 * And, does Faredoon's friends, relatives et al deserve an article too?! I mean they are close to Faredoon who is close to Meher Baba.....You get it?! ~ Winged Blades Godric  01:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * And,, how'bout making some valid arguments? Because, right now your's are being discounted right, left and center.Best, ~ Winged Blades Godric 02:07, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability is not inherited. Edward321 (talk) 14:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Faredoon Driver is not notable enough to warrant his own article. And there is no sense in merging it or redirecting it (as no other article talks about him, nor should there be). I agree fully with the AfD on the basis of notability. There are dozens of followers with more notability within the Baba follower community that have no article. So I am for Delete, pure and simple. Dazedbythebell (talk) 15:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED. Not seeing any in-depth third-party sourcing sufficient to establish independent notability. GSS (talk |c|em ) 18:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete-WP:NOTINHERIT applies here. Being mentioned as a disciple of saint in what ever context does not make somebody notable (Even if the source mentioning him has a reputation of never being wrong). I would strongly suggest that the Wikipedian's !voting keep read the essay I linked — FR+ 06:27, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment:, there is no source used in these biographies with such a reputation as you mention. Hoverfish Talk 01:31, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Source added, but subject fails GNG/BASIC. Sam Sailor 17:53, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


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