Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fariba Nejat


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Fariba Nejat

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The article is one of self-aggrandizement — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iraniantruth (talk • contribs) 2009/04/14 20:25:07
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 13:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  14:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. The current article is certainly self-aggrandizing, but that's a matter for cleanup and not AfD. What we're concerned with here is notability, that is whether Nejat is the subject of significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. The closest I can find are this and this, which are hardly 'significant', and a list behind a paywall at the San Jose Mercury News. From the summaries of the latter I can't see any evidence that they give significant coverage to Nejat, but if anyone finds the full articles I'd happily reconsider. Olaf Davis (talk) 15:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note also that although the article is a copy of this page, the user who created the article has previously claimed to own that website. I'm not sure what the ultimate outcome of that exchange was. Olaf Davis (talk) 15:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I'm not entirely sure why my article has been nominated for deletion; could you perhaps clarify for me to better understand? I have however confirmed with Wikipedia Foundation that I am in fact the owner of the website the biography is copied from. The information in the biography was attained by an interview that myself and my team had with Mrs. Nejat herself. I plan on posting more biographic articles in the future, all having been attained by personal interviews. This is why it's a bit difficult for me to cite my sources, and I can only post the link to the same biography on my website. I just hope not to run in to so many problems with each biography article I post. Glaan (talk) 16:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello Glaan. The point is that for a subject to have a Wikipedia article it must be 'notable' per the policy Notability - specifically it needs to have significant coverage in third-party sources. Articles about Mrs. Nejat in newspapers or coverage of her in books would suffice to demonstrate notability, but a self-published website such as yours does not for the obvious reason that anyone can easily set up a website to say anything they want (see WP:SPS). The two articles I linked to above don't give much coverage of her, but if you know of some that do the feel free to link to them. Olaf Davis (talk) 14:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response Mr. Davis. Once Mrs. Nejat has returned from her business, I will make sure to ask her of any articles relevant to this specific article. Is there a particular deadline for me to send in my sources of nobility before my article has been deleted?
 * This particular deletion debate will probably be closed shortly. If the outcome is Delete, then you will have to make sure the issues raised here are corrected before re-creating the article. decltype (talk) 10:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

A greater problem I face is that the people subject to articles I plan to post in the future are not very well known today and thus haven't any legitimate news stories or biographies up anywhere. The purpose of my Wikipedia articles is to hopefully get the names of these people a little more well known. For example, one article is to be written about an Iranian actress from decades ago, who is now eighty years old and hasn't any source of nobility because when she was in her prime, these things weren't available. Does this mean my article on her will in no way be allowed to remain on the website? Is there anything I can do? Thank you. Glaan (talk) 20:51, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, if notability can not be established by reliable third-party sources your articles will most likely end up getting deleted. In the case of an actress who had significant roles, even if it was a long time ago, I would think it would be possible to find sources. The best advise I can give at the moment is to familiarize yourself with the notability guideline, and try to ensure your subjects meets those. decltype (talk) 10:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


 * I have a few questions and concerns I want to address and thoroughly discuss before my second attempt at this article, though I don't believe this is the appropriate place for me to do that. Can I be recommended to a page or preferably an email address I can use to do this? Thank you. Glaan (talk) 22:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)