Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fast casual restaurant


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The result was speedy keep. WP:SK (non-admin closure) &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 02:26, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Fast casual restaurant

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Proposal: Delete Fast casual restaurant, merge whatever bare bones content is worth keeping into Fast food restaurant.

Fast casual is a marketing term created by executives of fast food restaurants to suggest that their brands are superior to McDonald's, Burger King et al.

The boundary is blurry at best and there really shouldn't be a distinction.

Even Wikipedia recognizes this, which is why the footer template "Fast food and fast casual restaurant chains in the United States" doesn't separate the two.

The average Chipotle burrito costs about $8. Chipotle is the Subway of Americanized Mexican food. Subway sandwiches are in the same price range as Chipotle, yet it's regarded as regular "fast food" instead of "fast casual"?

McDonald's recently launched a "build your own burger" feature in New York and other locations. You select your own ingredients (which are fresher than mass-produced McD's sandwiches) and the burger costs $8-10, same price range as Chipotle and Subway.

If food is prepared and served in minutes, it's fast food. Referring to specific chains as fast casual simply because corporate management calls them so for the sake of hyping their brand is advertising, not NPOV, and has no place in Wikipedia.

Aaaaaabbbbb111 (talk) 00:05, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Someone left this comment years ago on the Fast casual restaurant Talk page:

Chipotle I know this is everybody's favorite, and they may use better ingredients, but by current definitions, it's not really a fast-casual restaurant. It doesn't have limited table service — it has no table service. The meats are no less pre-prepared than a McDonald's patty, and a limited number of items are assembled quickly in assembly line fashion. Also, it will most certainly be included in NY's formal definition for its phased $15 minimum wage for fast food restaurants, and Chipotle even references themselves as a fast-food restaurant on their own website: We know that no fast food is perfect, including our own. Just thought I'd throw that out there before changing anything — I've been looking at these pages in light of the NY decision.

This comment was left by Crusho not by me.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. North America1000 06:13, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Note : This does not appear to have been transcluded in the 10 August 2015 AfD log, so I have transcluded it to the 2015 August 12 log. As such, the discussion should be considered as having started upon the time of this note. North America1000 06:15, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep The nomination is a mess and is proposing merger. See The Economist for evidence of notability. Andrew D. (talk) 06:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep #1. There's really no question that the concept is notable, even if not all sources agree on the precise definitions. The Economist, Washington Post, Forbes, and the New York Times have all featured articles that discuss the topic at length, some even noting the unclear boundaries of the term. There is prodigious coverage of the topic in industry magazines, as might be expected. In contrast, the wall-of-text nomination offers no policy-based cause for deletion. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:02, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


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