Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fatma Hatun (wife of Şehzade Bayezid)


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The result was delete. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:06, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Fatma Hatun (wife of Şehzade Bayezid)

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The article doesn't cite any sources, and it seems to be a fabricated article like dozens of other articles that had been created before. There's no mention of her on her alleged husband's article as well. I have no prejudice to recreation if it can be done with reliable sources but I doubt there's any mention of her on historical books. Keivan.f Talk 20:16, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. No source supporting the article, dubious existence given the context of the epidemic of invented articles about the Ottoman family.--Phso2 (talk) 22:22, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:42, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:14, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete. While I was able to find sources mentioning her alleged husband and children, including daughters, none of them supported even the mere existence of Fatma/Fatima herself ("Hatun" is but a noble title, so disregard that). Images of her supposed burial place, Melik-i Acem, only show 4 tombs. According to a sign outside however ("Şehzadeler Kanuni Sultan Süleyman'ın oğlu Bayezid ve oğulları Osman, Orhan, Abdullah burada metfundur."), these belong to Bayezid and his three sons. Considering the position of women at the time and the fact that the article stays vague about her origin, I doubt that there are sources about her; maybe passing mentions at best if she does turn out real, but nothing to support an in-depth encyclopedic entry—i.e. fails WP:GNG. --HyperGaruda (talk) 06:22, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails NOR. No prejudice to recreation, as Keivan.f says, even if sources are Turkish and/or offline, but there just isn't anything clearly supporting this article, and none online that I/other commentors so far can find it seems. Smmurphy(Talk) 15:57, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * DElete as OR. If there were no doubts about its veracity, I might have suggested merging to her husband.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:56, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * via wikidata, I found out that the article's Turkish counterpart was deleted via tr:Vikipedi:Silinmeye aday sayfalar/Fatma Haseki Sultan. --HyperGaruda (talk) 17:49, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:16, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


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