Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fatma Hatun (wife of Ahmed I)


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The result was delete. Unopposed.  Sandstein  22:45, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Fatma Hatun (wife of Ahmed I)

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This article seems to be the result of a mix between two or three different characters (each one non notable enough to have an article) : 1) a daughter of a vizier named Fatma, known for her mausoleum, dead in 1595/6 (thus obviously not a wife of Ahmet), who is the subejct of the 3 first references ; 2) an anonymous (at least in the references given) daughter of the same Pasha who wished to enter the harem (but sources suggest she didn't do it eventually) ; 3) an obscure concubine named Fatma whose description in one source that refers to her (Alderson's Structure of the Ottoman Dynasty) does not fit any of the formers. The children are attributed to her without a source. Phso2 (talk) 13:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Reluctant Support While this article does have sources, and at least one of these women may be notable, the proposer's analysis above makes it clear that this article is a tangled knot. Additionally, most of the sources are not in English, so it would be difficult to find an editor who could undo this knot.  Probably best to clear this and let someone start over in the future.  1bandsaw (talk) 18:31, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. --Phso2 (talk) 13:51, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 05:13, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:03, 6 March 2016 (UTC)


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