Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fazal Mohammad (politician)


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The result was delete. Essentially, there's nobody left defending the article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  14:32, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Fazal Mohammad (politician)

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Not notable and the sole reference is defunct. Nurg (talk) 00:06, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions. Nurg (talk) 00:17, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 00:21, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep: This would seem like an obvious keep via WP:NPOL, since he was a member of a provincial legislature, but it's a bit more complicated since we need a source that proves he was a member of the legislature. This is a tricky one since "Fazal Mohammad" is apparently a common name in Afghanistan (not "John Smith" level, but close). However, I think that number 128 in this members list is this Fazal Mohammad. Curbon7 (talk) 05:34, 5 October 2021 (UTC) Striking per below. Curbon7 (talk) 16:27, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Members of provincial legislatures only pass WP:NPOL if that country has a federal system of government, which Afghanistan does not have (File:Map of unitary and federal states.svg), so he does not pass WP:NPOL. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 15:37, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I've honestly never heard of this distinction in WP:NPOL. If it is correct, then should probably be made clear in the criteria. Curbon7 (talk) 15:59, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The change was made in March 2020 following this discussion. I hadn't heard of it myself, I just assumed that the "or similar" meant first level subdivisions in general. — Danre98 ( talk ^ contribs ) 21:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It's not worded well, but the distinction is not actually federal systems, it's members of parliaments, which by definition means bodies with legislative power. As an example of this, members of the Ålands Lagting are notable under NPOL even though Finland is a unitary state, whereas, for example, as a municipal council does not have legislative power, the presumed notability of NPOL would not apply. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. I have now rescued the sole reference to some extent by adding a link to an archived copy. However, the provincial councils are not legislatures, as far as I can see, and I have now removed the uncited claim to the contrary from Kandahar Provincial Council (see the edit summary there for a reference). One factoid, which is all this article consists of, does not make a worthwhile article and falls way short of proving notability. Nurg (talk) 03:29, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Your nomination is considered a !delete vote, so this is accidental double-voting. Continuing constructive comments such as this are beneficial, of course.  78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 15:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 15:08, 13 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2021 (UTC) Delete per nom.4meter4 (talk) 18:27, 28 October 2021 (UTC)


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