Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fear of Music


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and move Fear of Music (album) to this title. Deor (talk) 07:44, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Fear of Music

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There were previously 3 items on this page. However the band was deleted for failing the GNG and the term was deleted for being a non-scientific and non-notable neologism. With the album as the only page left, this is no longer needed (and I guess the album can then be made the primary topic). Yaksar (let's chat) 05:45, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Fear of Music (album), as per the guideline at Criteria_for_speedy_deletion (see footnote.3). Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 06:08, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Dylanfromthenorth, since the album would end up redirecting to here, would this page not have to be deleted first?--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:11, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * No I meant change the content of the disambiguation page so that it redirects to the album page (and leave the album page at Fear of Music (album)) Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 06:16, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, why would we do that? We have no other page at the title, so there's no reason it wouldn't be the primary topic?--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:19, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Because it's the simplest way of doing it; because it negates the need for a deletion discussion; because that's the guideline. It still would be the primary topic - anyone who types/clicks Fear of Music gets redirected to the album page, and anyone who types/clicks Fear of Music (album) gets taken to the album page. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 06:26, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I mean, ok. Our disambiguation guidelines would then have us move the page to the current name and have the disambiguated version redirect to it. I thought it would make sense to just ask the closing admin to do it in one go, but I guess if you'd prefer I could make it a separate RM after though? Seems a bit inefficient however.--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * RM? The guideline in the footnote I linked to above clearly says that situations like this should be solved by turning the disambiguation page into a redirect. It's not inefficient; it's really straightforward... Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 06:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 06:22, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry, WP:RM as in requested move. The footnote in that guideline is correct but is a bit different than this situation. It's designed more for situations where, say, George Bush has only 1 notable link on its page (pretend for the sake of example). At this point, it could then be redirected to George H. W. Bush rather than deleted since it is a perfectly valid redirect, but a page like George H. W. Bush (disambiguation) would not be a logical redirect to a specific article so it could then be deleted. In this case, our only topic is a disambiguated version of the same name, but, since there is nothing to disambiguate from, according to Disambiguation it should just exist at this title.--Yaksar (let's chat) 06:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Modify page to hard-redirect users to Fear of Music (album) - Since the other article listed in the page (Fear of Music (band)) doesn't exist, this page should be modified to simply re-direct users to the Fear of Music (album) page.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   08:20, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Is there a reason that page shouldn't redirect to this title?--Yaksar (let's chat) 14:46, 27 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - I don't think this needed to come to AfD. Disambigs with two links are rare to begin with, but this one should only have 1. The band article was deleted and there are no incoming links to it (I just removed the only two links in lists), so it should just be removed from the disambig. That leaves only the album. It doesn't make sense to redirect to an article with a parenthetical description, so delete this one in order to clear the way for a move of Fear of Music (album) &rarr; Fear of Music. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 13:59, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete and Move Fear of Music (album) to Fear of Music. If there's nothing else to disambiguate, then we don't need the "(album)" suffix at all (in other words, what Rhododendrites said). -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 15:43, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete and move album to base name - ie as per Gyrofrog and Rhododendrites. Pam  D  15:56, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete and move album to base name. Only one entry which has an article, or meets MOS:DABRL or MOS:DABMENTION; now the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC after the AfD deletion of Fear of Music (band). Boleyn (talk) 18:25, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.