Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FedCon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 04:49, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

FedCon

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Appears to fail general notability. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The article is a mess, it appears self-serving, and is unencyclopadic. However, as was pointed out in another recent AfD discussion, this process is not for cleanup of articles. gHits and gNews are difficult to work through given how closely tied an event like this is to the web, but a slightly more than cursory glance indicates that for a determined editor there is probably enough to establish notability. Attendance claims of 5K and the caliber of celebrities that attend also hint at notability. With that in mind, Keep.Vulture19 (talk) 03:04, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Edit: daPete did a cleanup. Vulture19 (talk) 15:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 02:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Disclaimer: I created the article, and I've been at every Fedcon since 2000, as a regular visitor. God was this a mess. For now I have just removed the advertising bits completely, most of which was added by User:Fedconusa (probably in attempt to advertise the ill-fated Fedcon USA convention). If SchuminWeb had raised any particular concerns why Fedcon is not notable, I would have liked to address them. I assume one problem is that the assertion that it is the biggest Star Trek/Scifi convention in Europe is not properly sourced. That is a problem, but not one warranting deleting the article, IMO. Keep. -- da pete 09:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete unless third party reliable sources (not fansites) are added to the article showing interest in FedCon outside of the fan community. Miami33139 (talk) 10:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Dapete did some fine work to cleanup the article, and two references have been added to support the claim of this being the largest ST convention in Europe. There are quite a few German language citations out there, also, that could be used by someone who speaks German. Vulture19 (talk) 15:52, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, promotional. Someidiot (talk) 23:33, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, I got there via links from pages about the "Star Trek: Enterprise" series, which is pretty well-known. It's not the greatest wiki article but it makes a decent stub, so people know what it is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.110.215.146 (talk) 15:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep Seems notable enough. Many Google and GoogleNews hits - many in German which might be why people are not finding them. --MelanieN (talk) 15:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)MelanieN
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.