Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Felicia Olsson


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The result was   redirect to Melodifestivalen 2013. If the person's only claim to notability is appearing in a content that ***hasn't even happened yet*** then that's a pretty obvious note that they're not individually notable .... yet. And per precedent, even appearing in such an event doesn't confer notability anyway. However, assuming AGF there is a possibility this person may become notable at some point and it's not unreasonable to assume her name may be a search term ... therefore, redirecting to keep the history. Black Kite (talk) 20:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Felicia Olsson

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Non-notable performer who has not yet made her debut so seems to fail WP:BIO and WP:GNG. Creator removed PROD and notability tags so taking to discussion. Mabalu (talk) 13:07, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep - her spot in Melodifestivalen 2013 indicates her notability as a singer.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:47, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Is this the ONLY reason? I was under the impression that singers and performers need extensive third-party coverage to demonstrate their notability. A single spot in a single festival doesn't sound sufficient. Mabalu (talk) 10:26, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have nothing against a redirect to an appropriate article (Melodifestivalen 2013?) until such time as the individual achieves additional notability in her own right, but right now a full article seems WP:TOOSOON. If she does go on to represent Sweden at Eurovision then that's notable, but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Mabalu (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I dont know how familiar you are with Melodifestivalen. But usually being involved with that show is notable as it is the most watched show on swedish television and you have to have had some sort of recognition by the music community to appear on the show. Redirecting it now just to create it again in a months time is a waste of time and effort. --BabbaQ (talk) 17:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This would seem to be what WP:Rollback is for. Notability achieved? Rollback the redirect because no text is lost. Doesn't sound like too much effort. If she is going to be so notable though, it seems strange that nobody else has shown a faintest bit of interest in the fate of the article... Mabalu (talk) 18:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, where are the sources? The only sources are one that actually calls her "an unknown", and a list of who's appearing in the show (I've not checked, but do all the other 20-odd perfomers also have WP articles? I have randomly checked a few and apart from Swedish House Wives, they did have articles, BUT also showed evidence of notability. I have no doubt that Felicia Olsson will be there in a few years time, but for now, a redirect, which can be easily reversed at an appropriate time, seems logical. Right now, she doesn't appear to pass any of the requirements for musical notability, which seem pretty rigorous. Mabalu (talk) 18:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Concerning the ridiculous amount of press and viewers Melodifestivalen gets and the role it plays in Sweden, I'd be tempted to see performing there as an indication of notability in itself. However, whether one agrees with that or not, the article need reliable third-party sources, not as a way to point at notability, but because the entry needs to be verifiable. I don't know if I'd call the sources and links gathered in the article so far sufficient. /Julle (talk) 20:01, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Should the article be deleted/redirected, however, I'd want to argue that the conclusion of this disucssion shouldn't be that the article should be kept deleted or redirected unless a new AfD discussion reaches another conclusion: it's likely that more will be written about her in the near future. /Julle (talk) 20:05, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


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 * Delete - a classic case of WP:TOOSOON isn't it? fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG as she hasn't recevies significant coverage in reliable sources. That she is going to contest in the Melodifestivalen, confers no notability. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:05, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * Well, within just a few weeks Olsson will have met the WP:NMUSIC criterias 1, 10,11 and 12. Deleting this article now is truly a waste of time. Secondly, Mentoz notion that performing in Melodifestivalen confers no notability is wrong. My say of Keep has not changed. --BabbaQ (talk) 00:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * All the more reason why turning the article into a redirect is appropriate at this point in time. The redirect can then, with the click of a button, be speedily reverted to the previous version of the article at such a time, when, and IF, Miss Olsson gains notability. No text need be lost - just temporarily stored. Mabalu (talk) 11:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:CRYSTAL, BabbaQ? Your opinion that performing in Melodifestivalen confers notability, is not supported by any notability guideline, and most important: this topic blantantly fails WP:GNG. Regarding Mabalu's point of redirecting instead of deleting - I don't see any reason why some non-notable singer's name, who performed in the semi-final of the yearly Melodifestivalen, should be redirected to Melodifestivalen, and a deleted article can also be restored with a click of a buttom (though only by admins). Mentoz86 (talk) 13:04, 21 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to that competition just like we do with others like Idol. No notability shown outside this contest. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. BabbaQ's one line non policy based keep once again adds nothing here. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:21, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you compare Idol and Melodifestivalen.. then you obviously dont follow Melodifetivalen (talk about not adding anything to the discussion). But I let the closing admin who hopefully will have a clue about Melodifestivalen decide this.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:13, 23 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - fails notability quite clearly. Article can be restored if subject receives significant coverage in future.--Staberinde (talk) 11:47, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
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