Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Felipe Nogueira


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The result was keep. bd2412 T 04:19, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Felipe Nogueira

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In 2010 and 2010, the player had 9 appearances in the Brazilian regional league Campeonato Mineiro, which is listed at WP:FPL, and one appearance in the Copa do Brasil. Aside from that, the rest of the player's career appears to have been spent in 4th-tier, non-FPL-listed US and Brazilian leagues. Despite technically meeting NFOOTY, I can find no WP:GNG-satisfying sources. We don't appear to have any source material from which to write an article, other than statistics websites. – Levivich 19:59, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. I have concerns about Brazilian regional leagues being considered fully-pro, and in the absence of any substantive sourcing he cannot be considered notable. GiantSnowman 09:25, 23 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - We could have this conversation all day about notability, but the fact is, as it stands, some Brazilian state leagues are professional, and Felipe Nogueira has made 9 appearances in a professional league. If this page is deleted, there would be hundreds of pages for Brazilian players that would need to be deleted too, let alone all of the players who have made one or two appearances in pro leagues or for a lower-ranked FIFA nation. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 12:04, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm not 100% familiar with how Brazilian leagues are technically classified. I was able to find a few sources that reference Nogueira directly (Announcing his retirement, going on loan to Guarani, and declining to take an assistant coaching position with Uberaba). It's not a lot but it's something. There are also other sources if you search his name along with the other teams he's played for. My lack of familiarity with Brazilian leagues keeps from voting definitively on this one, however. But maybe those sources will inform others who know more than me? Gargleafg (talk) 01:08, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - Article about footballer who spent much of his career with semi-professional clubs, but appears to have played a significant amount of games in the Campeonato Mineiro (top-tier league for Minas Gerais state). The league includes a few very popular clubs from Belo Horizonte, and the league is covered well in the Brazilian media, particularly within the state (although less so than the Carioca or Paulista championships). I'm not certain it's at the same status because there are several teams outside of Belo Horizonte that appear to have a much smaller following. That said, I found plenty of routine coverage, mostly in media based in Minas Gerais state, and some more in-depth coverage at the Jornal da Manhã newspaper (locally based in Uberaba). I've updated the article, but given the local nature of the coverage, and his rather unimpressive stint in US soccer, I'm thinking this is a borderline notable article. Jogurney (talk) 01:37, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. This is a misguided nomination. Footballer clearly meets the professional standard. gidonb (talk) 02:02, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:NFOOTY .SNGs including WP:FOOTY exist to provide for the inclusion of certain defined subjects that cannot immediately be shown to pass GNG. An SNG provides for a presumption of notability, not a presumption of non-notability An SNG cannot be used to exclude/delete an article when the subject passes GNG, but the reverse is patently absurd because that would negate the entire reason for the existence of SNGs.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 01:01, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


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