Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Female Prisoner Ayaka: Tormenting and Breaking in a Bitch


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The result was merge to Prison Girl.  Sandstein  08:13, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Female Prisoner Ayaka: Tormenting and Breaking in a Bitch

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Fails NFILM and the GNG. "Honorable mention" (below 10th place) is not well-known/significant/major. Negligible sourcing; all sources/references are self-published, promotional, or unselective databases. PROD removed without explanation or article improvement by IP without edit history. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006.  (talk) 21:59, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:55, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:58, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:58, 20 March 2016 (UTC)


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 * Merge and redirect to the existing and better sourced article Prison Girl (same film... different title... found with diligent WP:BEFORE). Essentially duplicating an existing topic, we can do a partial merge and then redirect to the more searchable title. A thought is that while this film may be thought non-notable in the United States, a cogent point is that Japan does not judge their it by U.S. standards, so a case can be made under WP:CSB that "notable to Japan or in Japanese is notable enough for us".   Schmidt,  Michael Q. 00:41, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge and Keep - Good sleuthing by . The two articles together are sufficiently sourced to warrant an article on Wikipedia. By the way, "Honorable Mention" here does not mean "below 10th place," it means 11th place (jiten or 次点--the "next place"). Whether that is notable or not by Wikipedia standards is open to debate, but some of the big best ten lists in Japan (Kinema Junpo, Eiga geijutsu) occasionally list "jiten" because it is considered significant to publicize what got a lot of support but just missed the best ten. Michitaro (talk) 13:30, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
 * M&R  per MQS & Mitch. – Davey 2010 Talk 03:19, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment. When did self-published fan sites become sufficient to establish notability? These may be more elaborate than usual, but I don't see anything showing them as genuinely significant sources. "City on Fire", for example, describes itself as "Proudly powered by WordPress", a prominent piece of blogging software. We discount fansources like this in virtually every other field, from music to webcomics to romance novels. Why should we make an exception for erotica? If the Volokh Conspiracy isn't an RS, why are fans of erotic horror films considered more reliable? This appears bizarre and ridiculous! The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by administrators since 2006.  (talk) 16:18, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


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