Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ferdinand Shifidi


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The result was delete. Notability not established. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 02:41, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Ferdinand Shifidi

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Assuming the article is correct (for some reason the NA sources lag forever and I cannot access them) this person is a councilor of Endola Constituency, population < 40k. That fails WP:NPOL by by a landslide. If someone tells me they can access the sources and they do establish notability by WP:GNG I will happily withdraw. Tigraan Click here to contact me 16:27, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Nominator's note: I also think this can be reverted, if the AfD ends up deleting. Tigraan Click here to contact me 16:31, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:53, 7 July 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:06, 14 July 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: final relist &mdash; Music1201  talk  01:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Between the article's lack of clarity and my own unfamiliarity with the structures of Angolan government, I had to check sources to determine whether "councillor for Endola Constituency" made him a local official on Endola's own local government body, or Endola's representative in the national legislature — but the sources confirmed that it's the former (local) body. But a local government body which governs just 36K people does not give its officeholders an automatic WP:NPOL pass just for existing, and this isn't making a particularly strong claim that he's more notable than the norm — apart from the initial statement that he exists, this is just a campaign-brochure biography rather than a substantive analysis of his career in politics, and that's not how you get a local politician over the inclusion bar. Bearcat (talk) 17:06, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Music1201  talk  01:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak keep or Merge to Endola Constituency. Could squeak past GNG, with a generous (for WP:SYSTEMICBIAS) interpretation of "in-depth" and heavy WP:MINEing, but to avoid making a WP:PERMASTUB the verifiable material could be added to the town's article (keep the election results, and add "Shifidi is former principal, low-level party official, and brother of Immanuel). Sources:
 * Brief reports that he was elected,     minimal background like "former principal"  & his age, and vote totals. He won by a landslide, and said he intended to build better roads. Turnout was big, election was fair. []
 * Some coverage during campaign, with some encyclopedic info
 * Interview about local issues relating to a drought
 * Brief quote and photograph in this paper focusing on his brother's death
 * In a list as "believed to be in detention"
 * Wildcard: several paragraphs I (and Google Translate) can't understand.
 * FourViolas (talk) 05:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. nonotable. A merge to the constituency is absurd considering there are 7 other people holding the same position who arent mentioned at all.  DGG ( talk ) 23:08, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete entirely only also since there's nothing actually suggestive of his own independent notability, deleted and mentioned there suffices. SwisterTwister   talk  19:45, 3 August 2016 (UTC)


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