Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fernand Picard (engineer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. WP:NPASR on account of notability. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 07:28, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Fernand Picard (engineer)

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As background:- This is one of the 3,583 articles created by machine translation using the content translation tool prior to July 2016. There was a community discussion in which it was decided (1) to disable the tool on en.wiki and (2) to pass a new, temporary criterion for speedy deletion at WP:CSD, to enable the removal of these articles. The community accepted that many of these articles are fixable and properly-translated versions of them do belong on the encyclopaedia; but the community felt that machine translations are not reliable. Copyedited fixups of machine translations are also unreliable unless the person who has done the copyediting has dual fluency in the source language as well as English and so can confirm that the script has preserved the original meaning in the source language. Since that time I have been slowly grinding through the 3,583 articles listed here. Unfortunately in the case of this article the speedy deletion was declined, so now I need to ask the community to enforce it via AfD. I want to be clear that this translation is fixable for someone with dual fluency. I could fix it. But the effort involved is utterly disproportionate when these articles were created by scripts, and I'd like to finish this job at some point and I'm hoping to retire in 20 years. So I need the extraordinary measures the community has authorised to be enforced. Help me AfD, you're my only hope! — S Marshall T/C 23:03, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Machine translations should be burnt with fire. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 00:58, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. Article is in a terrible state, and don't appear to be any humans wanting to fix it. I'd normally say Userfy, but there isn't really anything here worth salvaging. 1292simon (talk) 09:23, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep with due respect to the solid arguments above. I've stubbed the article, and argue that there's coverage which shows that the subject has created/designed multiple automobiles which have received signficant coverage, which would qualify (okay, I admit this is a little bit of a stretch) under WP:ARTIST #3. I suspect WP:BASIC coverage is available but I don't pretend I've proven it here. Still, I have addressed the issues with machine translation via stubbing and sourcing. --joe deckertalk 05:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC)


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