Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fernanda Alves (model)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:24, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Fernanda Alves (model)

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Not notable per WP:NMODEL, WP:BIO, or WP:GNG. Like a lot of beauty pageant winners (there is no NBEAUTY yet), this is a case of WP:BLP1E. No significant coverage online in WP:RS, just passing mentions about having won Miss International 1996, or for being married to a multimillionaire. This was correctly redirected to Miss International 1996 by User:SwisterTwister a year ago, but now that it's been re-created (apparently in good faith) at Fernanda Alves (Miss International) with rather more detail and a few WP:RS, it seemed best to take it to AFD, especially after User:GSS-1987 noted at Talk:Fernanda Alves (model) that there was little point in merging the new fork to the original. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I am also nominating the forked article mentioned above, for completeness' sake:
 * The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Please see Articles for deletion/Fernanda Alves.PRehse (talk) 12:28, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You beat me to it. Fernanda Alves appears to have originally created about the Portuguese beauty pageant winner, AFD'd in 2016, and then a new article created two months ago about the Brazilian volleyball player of the same name. There is also a lost Brazilian child currently in the news with this name. The Mighty Glen (talk) 12:36, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete not enough sourcing to pass GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:14, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:39, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep the "(Miss International)" version and Delete the "(model)" version. This is a person who competed at the highest level of her field.  Doing this creates the presumption that reliable sources do exist, even if they haven't been found yet.  This is the same presumption that is applied to virtually every other structured system of organized competition covered by Wikipedia and there is no reason why it shouldn't be applied here, as well.  And in this particular case, the argument becomes even stronger when we note that the subject was the first woman from her country to have won one of (what was then) the Big Three international pageants.  It is utterly implausible to suggest that she did not receive substantive coverage in the newspapers and magazines of Portugal.  But she did this in the mid '90s, which puts it beyond the reach of most on-line searching.  Identifying those sources requires only that someone be willing to spend some time in a library in Lisbon.  Until then, the article can be trimmed down a bit and left as a stub to be expanded later.  NewYorkActuary (talk) 19:15, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete both: does not meet WP:NMODEL & significant RS coverage not found. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:51, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


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