Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fia Starr Roan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Fia Starr Roan

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Absolute, unabashed, blatant hype. Unless you think WP entries should contain phrases like "This film is a must see, buy the movie now..." Also see related page, The Label. Ψν Psinu 03:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong delete, should've been speedied. Spam, just like "The Label." - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 03:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did put in a speedy delete tag, but the Speedy Delete Overlord of the day denied it saying "indicates/asserts notability". Well, of course they would... Ψν Psinu 04:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't believe spam has to not assert notability. The criterion says "Pages which exclusively promote some entity and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic. Note that simply having a company or product as its subject does not qualify an article for this criterion." Superm401 - Talk 04:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * For clarity's sake, I should note that I removed a db-bio tag in view of the article's indicating/asserting notability in noting that the subject plays a non-trivial role in "a[n apparently notable] film" (for the purposes of considering assertions of notability in the context of speedy deletion requests, we generally presume that books/films/corporations/sports teams about which we have articles are notable, which does, to be sure, present problems where walled gardens, the components of which reciprocally assert notability, exist); I did not consider the applicability of G11, at the very least because the article was not tagged db-spam. For various reasons, I don't think this to meet G11 (The Label might, and upon its deletion this would likely fail A7), and for other reasons I don't know that it would be particularly useful for us to speedy as spam at this juncture, but I removed the speedy tag without respect to G11, and I, for one, probably would not bother to raise any objections were this tagged for G11.  Joe 05:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No need to defend yourself/ves, folks. I'm just sayin'. Ψν Psinu 05:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. "Notable" only as star in non-notable movie. Superm401 - Talk 04:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I am the writer of this article.  This actor is listed on Internet Movie Database at imdb.com and All Movie at allmovie.com.  The intention of this entry is merely to be description of the actor.  I have seen the film "The Label" and the documentary "Hip-Hop: The Business Behind The Music" at 2 screenings in Los Angeles and met the actor.  I believe this entry for this director to be a significant contribution to Wikipedia.  Someone other than me edited the article and added promotional hype.  I removed it.  This article is not intended as Spam in any way.  Brennusgroup - Talk 09:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, non-notable actor. Being listed at IMDB is not usually taken as an indicator of notability.  Lankiveil (talk) 11:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Delete IMDB is user input anyway, and while an important source, having a IMDB entry alone isn't enough to meet notability. To compare, the guy packing stuff in our warehouse has an IMDB page as well (swear to dog), but is not notable.  Pharmboy (talk) 15:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per above; IMDb listing doesn't indicate notability. Not quite A7 material but certainly not notable yet. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 19:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Her IMDB score is in the millions which strongly states she's not notable. TGreenburgPR (talk) 20:08, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * delete per above. —Random832 17:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.