Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fictional aircraft in Dale Brown novels


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:52, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Fictional aircraft in Dale Brown novels

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This article:
 * 1) Lacks references
 * 2) Fails notability requirements
 * 3) Is an article fork of Fictional military aircraft

Fleet Command (talk) 07:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 08:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge with Fictional military aircraft. Alternatively, merge with Dale Brown. This topic is not notable enough for a stand-alone article but does warrant its own section in the aforementioned article.  Deterence  Talk 08:21, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete- This is excessive fan trivia based entirely on editors' interpretations of the work of fiction itself. It therefore fails WP:NOT, in that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and WP:OR, because you can't draw your own conclusions from primary sources and put than in an encyclopedia article. I oppose a merge because this article fails basic content policy and so none of its content is usable. In addition, the suggested merge targets are unsuitable. This level of intricate fictional detail would be out of place in a biographical article about a real person, and the list of Fictional military aircraft is already way too long, horrendously sourced, and overflowing with fancruft so shovelling more of the same in there would just make it worse. Reyk  YO!  21:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * While I agree that the Fictional military aircraft is probably too long, (and could do with a split, such as one article for fictional aircraft from literature and one for movies), I don't see that as sufficient reason for deleting this article instead of merging it. If the article Fictional military aircraft is too long, then the excessive length of that article, (with or without a merge with Fictional aircraft in Dale Brown novels), can be dealt with separately from this AfD.  Deterence  Talk 03:35, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Lack of source? Article fork? You know, article forks are deleted; contents that cannot be verified are also challenged and deleted. God knows how much false info or novel non-Dale Brown fiction is sandwiched amongst all those unreferenced material. Fleet Command (talk) 05:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as trivia -- Whpq (talk) 14:21, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What? 90% of Wikipedia is trivia.  Deterence  Talk 21:43, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as Wikipedia is not for plot-only descriptions of fictional works, including minor plot details such as aircraft. Fails the general notability guideline due to a lack of third party sources. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:53, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:22, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:22, 2 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOT; Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and these fictional aircruft seem indiscriminate. Lacks references in the form of inline cites for verification, and likely contains a fair amount of original research, but a dedicated fan could probably cite what page which aircraft was described in which novel. Even then, it would lack independent and reliable sources needed to show the topic is a notable one, or that the "fictional aircraft in Dale Brown novels" is any more deserving of an article than hats and garden tools used by Agatha Christie's Miss Marple (a "black lace cap" in "The Tuesday Night Club;" "a felt hat with a bird's wing" in "A pocket full of rye"), cars destroyed (multiple per novel) in Janet Evanovich's Stephanie Plum novels, or fictional horses (and fictional airplanes, for that matter) in Dick Francis novels. Edison (talk) 21:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - This stuff is better off being put in a fan wiki. Wasn't pleasant on the eyes first time I saw it. --Eaglestorm (talk) 16:14, 3 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.