Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fictional history of Dick Grayson


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Some good suggestions for merging and doing so would make a lot of sense IMHO. However, considering the size of both articles I think a standard "mergeto" request would be better then an AFD "merge" close. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:18, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Fictional history of Dick Grayson

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This page consists almost exclusively of in-universe content with little or no real-world notability. PROD was contested. Stifle (talk) 13:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Multiple paragraphs of this article are identical to paragraphs in Dick Grayson. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:48, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep it does not consist only of plot. It talks about the development of a significant character over several long series of notable works, including material on the creation of the various series and the artists. This is one thing an encyclopedia can do, which is bring material like this together.   DGG ( talk ) 16:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to Dick Grayson DGG, any comment about how this compares to the older article, Dick Grayson? I don't disagree with what you say about an article about a fictional character, but in this case, it's-been-done. Generally, the explanation for articles like this is that there has been an edit war, with Sheldon and Leonard arguing over who knows more about a comic book character. A merger of relevant material might be in order. Mandsford (talk) 16:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. As DGG points out, this is not in-universe discussion, but instead a report of how the publisher has developed and marketed the very notable comic-book character. Some of the in-universe content needs pruning, sometimes heavy pruning, but the usefulness of this distinct article is substantial. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong merge to Dick Grayson. There is no difference between an article about a fictional character and an article about the fictional history of a fictional character, that I can see anyway. Nothing against either article, their editors, or their topic. Borock (talk) 18:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. An article on a fictional character is supposed to include stuff like the history of the character and development of the character. Trim it down and merge to the main article. The title also is odd, basically a fictional history of a fictional character. Does that mean it's not the real history of the character?  TJ   Spyke   18:25, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. Declan Clam (talk) 18:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge - Weak Keep - I can see both sides of this. So either Dick Grayson should have a VERY short summary, with this page having all the detail; or this should be merged to Dick Grayson. - jc37 15:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep -- I agree with Jc37. Dick Grayson should either include all the info from the article, or a quite short summary with a link to it. This may in fact be the best solution. Anakinjmt (talk) 21:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep due to the notability and size of the content. ArtistScientist (talk) 01:21, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep as reasonable fork of extremely long article. Agree that it could use a bit of pruning, tho.  Ford MF (talk) 12:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. -- Hiding T 19:18, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.