Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fictional history of Superman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 19:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Fictional history of Superman

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Lavish completely in-universe fictional history based entirely on the primary sources. The problem with doing this in-universe type articles is that because many the character appears in multiple titles, the editors must use original research to decide what is "important" and should be included. As an aside, what's even more staggering about this article is that it currently ignores the first 50 years of the character's history...

In addition, we already have History of Superman which is a mixture of "character as object of narrative" (good) and in-universe "and then he punched him and he said, I'll punch you" and so on *but* could be cleaned up to be a decent article. So this article would be redundant if it was possible to remove the in-universe tone. Cameron Scott (talk) 19:39, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as in-universe minutae strewn together as original research. Plot details without real-world context are not helpful. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Superman Wiki and Delete. The narrative summary of post-Crisis Superman stories might be useful for fans, but is out of place in a general purpose encyclopedia.  There are some secondary sources that could be used for this article (e.g. The DC Comics Encyclopedia), but they would not justify the level of detail seen here.  Plus, redundant with History of Superman, as Cameron says. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 13:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge to History of Superman. Such a comprehensive list surely has some utility for the Superman hx. -Sharp962 (talk) 02:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC).
 * Delete- I've read the article more thoroughly, and feel it should be deleted. There are sections that are inaccurate including the "Birthright" section, which alludes to recent Superman events written by Geoff Johns (who is writing a non-Birthright origin story).  I would take such an instance to be reflection of the whole page, making the information of the article not only suspect (but wholly unsalvagable).  I would move for a deletion over both Transwiki and merge. -Sharp962 (talk) 19:17, 19 August 2009 (UTC).
 * (Note: Comment from Sharp962 02:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC) was revised to current post. -Sharp962 (talk) 19:17, 19 August 2009 (UTC))

Delete - Wikipedia does not need to go into so much detail about fictional characters, History of Superman provides an adequate coverage of the subject. And the ignorance of the first 50 years is just ridiculous. I feel bad saying this, because a lot of time and effort went into this article. But still. Spongefrog, (I am a flesh-eating robot)  09:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. -- Hiding T 15:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
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