Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fiesta (MMORPG)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 22:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Fiesta (MMORPG)

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This game has not received any significant coverage in reliable, published sources, and therefore does not pass the general notability guideline. No other indication of importance. I am aware of several press releases (, etc) which do not aid WP:N. No reviews on the usual reliable websites. Marasmusine (talk) 10:00, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletion discussions. Marasmusine (talk) 10:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:Notability, the topic can also be considered notable if it meets the criteria outlined in one of the more subject-specific guidelines: Academics, Books, Criminal acts, Films, Music, Numbers, Organizations & companies, People, and Web content—which on this case, the game itself meets the criteria outlined in the web content since it is already being reviewed on some mmorpg reviewer websites. It just needs some improvements on editing—including which reliable sources that the information has been taken. We, editor, the fiesta fans—most of us not even in college yet—are trying to do our best to improve the article, and still learning how to write a good article. It does not need to be deleted. Don’t demolish the house while it’s still being built. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sesarnof (talk • contribs) 14:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Which MMORPG review websites has it been reviewed on? They need to be WP:Reliable sources. 164.38.32.28 (talk) 18:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Replying to Sesarnof: This game can't be evaluated on it's ability to meet the notability criteria required of web content. It's not web content, it's a game. Regardless, it wouldn't pass the web content criteria anyway... same problems: no significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject. Sancho 07:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. See above. Sancho 07:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Notability has not been demonstrated by the presence of multiple reliable sources covering the game in detail. Though I have seen reviews on MMO sites the problem is that none of them are ones I would personally accept as reliable, ie usable as sources. There are numerous posts on more reliable sites for things like updates (on Massively for instance), but these are nothing more than copying and pasting game updates for the sake of creating 'news', there's no serious analysis (or indication that anybody has actually bothered to play the game). Someoneanother 13:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.