Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fifth World Council Accreditation Agency


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 14:03, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Fifth World Council Accreditation Agency
Non-notable crank website. JW1805 (Talk) 19:09, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Very Notable website to micronationals, and a sincere effort to establish high standards in the fields of government services, academic services, media services, and Alternative DNS root services. Cranks, on the other hand, are notable for the very opposite reason: their lack of professionalism, or like the ICANN, for their lack of representation, and monopolistic tendencies. Adam Smith did not consider monopolies as authentic capitalism. --IndigoGenius 21:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - NN + SEO spam + OR (see whois -h whois.melbourneit.com cesidianroot.com). --&#160;Omniplex 22:24, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Can you provide examples of how you have been operating in the business community, or documentation that this is anything other than a made-up subculture circulated around a few people? Aguerriero  ( talk ) 22:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Made-up subculture? First of all, all cultures are made by human beings, and Fifth World culture is no different in that respect, but when you call it a subculture, you are also implying it is inferior. I disagree. Only time will tell, however, that I'm right and you're wrong. The Tallini Family (TTF) is really a cyberstate, and is not a registered or incorporated company within any jurisdiction. Yet it has over $15,000 worth of credit with Centurion Bank (aka American Express). It has existed with bank credit since 17 November 1998. The Tallini Family is also listed in the Nafta Register on this page: http://www.globalcontactinc.com/media/nafta/b.pdf. You will need to perform a search to find it here under "Tallini" or "Tallini Family". The Kingdom of Bucksfan, or more comprehensively, TTF-Bucksfan, is an offshoot of The Tallini Family or TTF, and it came about in November 2001. Although this entity later formed the Cesidian Root, it is still registered as the owner of several TLDs of the now defunct Public-Root. If you go to the INAIC organisation's website at http://inaic.com, and you enter the TTF, TALLINI, BUCKSFAN, BUCRAFAN, CESIDIO, 5WC, SAVOIA, ITALIANA, AMORE, and UNIVERSITY TLDs in the WHOIS, you will discover that TTF-Bucksfan owned these TLDs in said root, so we use them perfectly legitimately today, although the INAIC/Public-Root was less than an ethically run enterprise. The Fifth World Council (5WC) was started in July 2002 by TTF-Bucksfan, and several less stable micronations. It is an international governmental and nongovernmental organisation. Today it has a strong and populous Italian micronation as a member (Impero), an Australian environmental organisation (The Earth Society), an Indian business (Zion Business Alliance India or InfoSystem), and several independent individuals. It has funded or encouraged alternative root email research that was never before done in the Public-Root, probably email experiments that were never done before, period. The Cesidian Root started September 2005, but it was not a full root until November 2005. It is essentially a corporation of TTF-Bucksfan, registered with the Micronational Professional Registry, and is accredited by the Fifth World Council Accreditation Agency, that is, by several micronations, organisations, and individuals. Alternative DNS root is not an easy business, since you are basically competing against an illegal monopoly created by the US Department of Commerce, and most nation-states, even territories of the same, do not have a tendency to "rock the boat." In our extremely short existence we have gone beyond the Beta stage. We have gone from being a non-root of two servers, to a full Intercontinental Internet with seven servers. We have offered our services to territories so far (e.g.: the Åland Islands), and to organisations whose TLD application was refused by ICANN (e.g.: the SRI International). In July we will try a different approach, but I cannot reveal company secrets. It will be a better and probably more successful approach, however. The Cesidian Root allows full resolution of a perfect copy of the ICANN root (we scan the ICANN root every day automatically), a full copy of the OpenNIC root, we resolve China's 3 special TLDs in Punycode form, and we resolve another 13 special Cesidian Root TLDs besides these. We hope to be able to cover our expenses, as there is nobody greedy in our intermicronational and multinational corporation, and to make a decent profit in the future, doing what we love to do and are great at. But we are basically in the business of serving governments and jurisdictions not served by the current system (we want to provide a meaningful public service), and serving also those who are denied both a territorial space, as well as a virtual space -- like Tibet, for example, but we would be happy to help the Kurds too. We also hope to offer TLDs within a good traffic Internet to hobby or nonprofit groups, and in fact I have offered our services to the Ham radio group without success in the past. We are here to serve, and hopefully make the world a nicer, and less nastier place. With ICANN, such groups could not be served with their $250,000 TLD fees. ICANN exists only to serve for profit and greedy groups, and monopolies already in charge. --IndigoGenius 19:06, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. Non-notable crank site Bwithh 22:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and User:IndigoGenius : "notable to micronationals" is not notable. Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:42, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and others. Paddles 15:15, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. The JPS talk to me  21:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all IndigoGenius self-promo. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


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