Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fifth harmony


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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 21:21, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Fifth harmony
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Fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO and WP:NMUSIC. The group has a bit of significance as it finished The X Factor but only finished third. Mediran ( t  •  c ) 12:01, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - per WP:BAND (WP:NMUSIC) which suggests that a band may be notable if it "has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself." or "has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network". It meets both criteria with sources like:, , and . Nimuaq (talk) 14:50, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: your third source is to a yahoo blog, which does not meet WP:RS by any definition. Killer Chihuahua 15:42, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply: Lyndsey Parker is the Managing Editor of Yahoo! Music and the author of Yahoo!'s Reality Rocks music blog, thus a Yahoo employee , whose interviews are too often cited in Wikipedia (see ). There is a distinction between blogs that are self published and blogs published by the news outlets, according to WP:SPS, "Some news outlets host interactive columns they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professional journalists or are professionals in the field on which they write and the blog is subject to the news outlet's full editorial control.". Nimuaq (talk) 16:11, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Good grief, we accept Reality Rocks these days? Eh, things change. Still not the best source for supporting a Keep on an Afd, regardless. Killer Chihuahua 18:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it all depends on the subject of the Afd, if it was about a science topic, I'd seek academic sources, but in this particular case, the subject is about a music band and that third source is from a music journalist who has been working as the Managing Editor of Yahoo! Music for 14 years and conducted an interview with the band that is hosted at Yahoo! Music website, so I think it is a pretty good source that meets the "non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself" description the criteria seeks. Nimuaq (talk) 18:38, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete on procedural grounds Proper casing of group's name Fifth Harmony already redirects to a well-sourced section in List of The X Factor finalists (U.S. season 2). No need for duplication of information, and per the AfDs of last year's top-placing group Lakoda Rayne (nom 1) and Lakoda Rayne (nom 2), until they do something involving recording an album or even stay together beyond the show, a redirect is fine.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 20:31, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:29, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - per Nate, all of the sources I added above are also related to that TV show, and if the band has a section on that article with a proper redirect, they can guarantee a stand-alone article when the information on that section grow beyond the scope of List of The X Factor finalists (U.S. season 2). Nimuaq (talk) 05:36, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per Nate. This seems to be a recreation of a previously deleted topic (which was eventually merged into List of The X Factor finalists (U.S. season 2), and the original article made a redirect). — ΛΧΣ  21  06:13, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
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