Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fifty State Initiative


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There's no consensus on what to do with the ensuing red link, though RoySmith's suggestion seems sensible. Mackensen (talk) 21:33, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Fifty State Initiative

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NN cruft. This material is an unnecessary level of detail on the related Marvel comics stories (which already have articles) from almost ten years ago. MSJapan (talk) 03:16, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Primary sources or niche news sources (thus fails "... gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time...", neither of which qualify the subject for notability. Spshu (talk) 12:20, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - I see a bunch of citations to Newsarama and Comic Book Resources, both of which are reliable sources, thus meeting WP:N for this topic. The fact that the stories are 10 years old are completely irrelevant, as notability does not expire. BOZ (talk) 13:45, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete There are not, as previously stated, a bunch of citations to Newsarama and Comic Book Resources. What there are, are a bunch of citations to forum posts on Newsarama and Comic Book Resources' message boards, which are not in the least bit "reliable sources".  There is actually only one legit link to each of those sites, and in both cases, the articles in question are not even on the topic, and mentions it completely tangentially.  Outside of those two, the rest of the citations are, as noted, forum posts, social media posts, and the comic books themselves, none of which are valid sources for establishing notability.  And not only that, all of the sources are pretty much not even being used to even try to support any information that would give it claim to notability, just the overly detailed lists of superheroes, which is pure fancruft.  I looked around a bit to see if I could find any sources outside of these anywhere else, and while I do see the term brought up in a few articles here and there, it is just as a brief mention, with nothing describing the term in depth, or showing why it has any real world notability.  64.183.45.226 (talk) 18:56, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Merge relevant content to Civil War (comics). Any lasting relevance is to the aftermath of that event, , . Patar knight - chat/contributions 22:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Nothing worth merging, as Civil War (comics) and Avengers: The Initiative already contain the relevant information. Redirecting doesn't seem appropriate since both of these are valid targets. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:13, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * If Fifty State Initiative is a potential search term, a redirect, not deletion, would be warranted. Do you not see the potential for readers to search for Fifty State Initiative? Since deletion will create some redlinks, I think that's a difficult case to make. ~Kvng (talk) 15:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You are aware that you can remove a redlink by editing the article and taking out the brackets, right? MSJapan (talk) 16:46, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Turn into a WP:DAB page, with entries for both Civil War (comics) and Avengers: The Initiative, in the spirit of WP:ATD-R. I don't know much about comic books, so I can't really comment on the notability of this, but if the only objection to WP:ATD-R is that there's more than one plausible target, a DAB page is the obvious solution.  -- RoySmith (talk) 00:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


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