Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fight Panthers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:53, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Fight Panthers

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Non-notable college fight song. No evidence of notability under WP:N or WP:MUSIC. GrapedApe (talk) 01:17, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Georgia State Panthers, which is the parent article. As WP:NSONG states: "Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article".--SGCM (talk)  06:58, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  Gongshow  Talk 12:53, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  Gongshow  Talk 12:53, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions.  Gongshow  Talk 12:53, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - Article has three solid references. How much more notability are we looking for? It may not be Beethoven's 5th, but it looks to be eminently worthy of an article. --Bongwarrior (talk) 13:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The current article is relatively short, and can be merged to Georgia State Panthers. If the article was expanded, with a longer history section and a section on reception, there may be enough to warrant a separate article.--SGCM (talk)  19:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The article has enough information - if there were some danger of the article becoming an unreferenced permastub, I would agree with a merge. But the article is already past that point, and shouldn't be required to meet any arbitrary length requirements. WP:GNG is easily met (and that's a higher bar than just meeting WP:MUSIC) so I say keep. --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:32, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The question isn't length, but whether it can be expanded beyond what it is now. Is there really enough written coverage on the song for a separate article?--SGCM (talk)  21:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete (or redirect to relevant article about Georgia athletics) - The fight song is not particularly old (introduced after 2010) so it's not winning points for longevity. All three news sources are (1) local, and (2) relating to replacement of the previous song.  The notability criteria tell us to compare something within its group -- e.g., "is "Fight Panthers" notable among college fight songs?"  and I fear the answer is no, for now.  Give it a plagiarism or copyright scandal, or a popular top-40 cover, or longevity, or an award, or anything else that we might think of that would create notability among fight songs.  But if this one comes in, we may as well give an article to each and every fight song of a major university. --Lquilter (talk) 22:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * If I may be so bold — in my opinion we SHOULD have articles on every fight song for every major university. Wikipedia is not paper, we are not going to run out of electrons. Carrite (talk) 14:40, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm not worried about the electrons -- I'm more worried about running out of editors that can adequately write, source, categorize, watch for vandalism, and maintain NPOV. Anyway, I have no problem having content about fight songs in Wikipedia's articles on the athletic programs for particular schools.  But to have an individual article on a song, I'd like to see some indication that the song is notable within its class.  --Lquilter (talk) 02:31, 13 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:00, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Adequately sourced university "school song" for Georgia State. Passes GNG. School song articles have generally been kept in the past, and for good reason, I additionally note, as they are important parts of university and local culture. Carrite (talk) 14:38, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.