Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Filip Twardzik (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:19, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Filip Twardzik
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He doesn't pass WP:ATHLETE, as didn't appear in a fully professional league. Playing in the FA Cup against Scottish Third Division club does not infer notability per BigDom's opinion –Wrwr1 (talk) 06:17, 29 January 2012 (UTC)


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 * Incubate. He "technically" passes WP:FOOTYN, but if that one appearance against a minnow is his only claim of notability, it's clearly not enough to grant him an article. However, he's only 18 and I feel like he is going to get more notable in the very near future, so I think it's better to incubate the article until his notability claims get sturdier. – Kosm  1  fent  09:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Changing to keep, on the light of his second appearance in a cup match against an FPL team. – Kosm  1  fent  20:52, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - as he doesn't pass WP:GNG or WP:NFOOTBALL; I would suggest moving this back into Userspace until such time as either GNG or NFOOTBALL are met. GiantSnowman 16:46, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - per this, now meets WP:NFOOTBALL, so notable. GiantSnowman 16:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Edinburgh  Wanderer  15:22, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:09, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. On account of his appearance for a team from a FPL against another team from a FPL. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:14, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Also wears ridiculous pink boots. PorridgeGobbler (talk) 20:20, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment . The Scottish Cup is a notable competition we aren't talking about the first few rounds. This is the fourth round that achieves high coverage. If its a notable competition why do we feel his inclusion isn't warranted now. He meets WP:FOOTYN which i know is not primarily what we use its a thin line as there is loads of articles in a similar position to this one. Edinburgh  Wanderer  21:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep In the past WP:NFOOTBALL has been extended to cover players making cup appearances for clubs playing in fully professional leagues (several players have articles based on appearances in the Football League Cup). The argument could be made that because this cup game was against a semi-pro team, it doesn't count, but would it be the same if Celtic had been playing St Johnstone? If it is deleted, PorridgeGobbler's secondary rationale is probably the best reason. Number   5  7  23:25, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Is it indeed the case that an appearance for a club from a fully pro league against a club from a semi-pro league constitutes the passage of WP:FOOTBALL? If so, then shouldn't this be record under WP:NFOOTBALL criterion 2? Mattythewhite (talk) 12:45, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep played in the Scottish Cup again today. This time against St. Johnstone Inverness, a fully pro team. I still feel because its a notable competition it shouldn't of been deleted anyway. Guideline needs to be made clearer as there are many articles in a similar situation. Edinburgh  Wanderer  14:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - as per EW, played against Inverness today.see here &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 14:50, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, WP:SNOW. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 04:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes point 2 of WP:FOOTYN, even though it was under two minutes. Maybe his manager had been reading the AfD... Cloudz 679 09:12, 5 February 2012 (UTC)


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