Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FinCon (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The "keep" comments are mostly totally unrelated to Wikipedia's notability standards: e.g. "attracts thousands of attendees" and "has been paramount in bringing financial education and uniting those who want to spread this in the world". The one reason which does refer to the relevant notability concept, namely "Major media mentions", turns out to mean brief passing mentions and non-independent and/or unreliable sources such as press releases. The "delete" comments, meanwhile, are directly related to the notability guidelines. (Incidentally, "it passed" in the previous AfD means that the discussion was closed as "no consensus" with two participants in favour of deletion and one for keeping, the latter being the creator of the article.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:42, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

FinCon
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Not notable. No reliable sources in the article, and all Google search results are from non-notable blogs affiliated with the conference, or are blog articles written by conference attendees regarding the conference. (Note that this is a blogging conference.) Newslinger (talk) 09:07, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Strong Keep - Been through this before less than a year ago and it passed... The conference attracts thousands of attendees with a combined reach of tens of millions of monthly online audience. Major media mentions. Chicago Tribune, Entrepreneur, AARP, Mic, Fox Business, Wall Street Journal (behind a paywall but Google says mention is there), NASDAQ, Forbes, press releases, Business Insider, Parade, CBS News, Huffington Post, could keep going. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric1985 (talk • contribs) 15:10, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: According to his user page, runs a financial marketing blog. A site-scoped Google search of the blog reveals dozens of promotional posts for FinCon, as well as an interview with the founder of FinCon. As Eric1985 is the article creator, this is a clear conflict of interest that strongly suggests WP:SPIP. Newslinger (talk) 16:29, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Tagged Talk:FinCon with connected contributor and User talk:Eric1985 with uw-coi. Newslinger (talk) 16:39, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * None of these sources offer significant coverage of the conference. Newslinger (talk) 03:45, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep This conference has been paramount in bringing financial education and uniting those who want to spread this in the world. It would be a disservice to the USA and to humanity if this were to be deleted. KEEP FITCON! — Maxmymoney (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 15:22, 11 July 2018 (UTC).


 * Strong Keep This conference is instrumental in bringing together personal finance authors, bloggers, podcasters, vloggers, CFPs, financial advisors, and members of the media. Keep, and let's flesh it out further! — Jackieaz68 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 16:09, 11 July 2018 (UTC).


 * Strong Keep This is one of the only conferenes that focuses on money and media. It has strong attendance that has continued to grow. It attracts major media, online publishers, most major finance brands, and more. — Rfarring (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 16:39, 11 July 2018 (UTC).

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: does not meet WP:NORG / WP:NEVENT; significant RS coverage not found. The above "Keep" votes are by SPAs. K.e.coffman (talk) 16:25, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - I feel a need to tackle the barrage of sources. They are an interesting mix of Sig Cov failures (average length 3 lines, Fox News seemed longest with 8), not actually a link to a relevant article, pure listing info (in the form of just saying they exist) and traditional unreliable sources. None of WP:NORG, WP:NEVENT, WP:GNG are satisfied. I've not myself checked the COI and SPA situation, but if so I would also advise a SPI check. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I have now reviewed it myself, but a SPI check is already underway, in any case Nosebagbear (talk)


 * Delete Vanishingly little significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. XOR&#39;easter (talk) 16:03, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


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