Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Final Destination 6: The Final Stand


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:11, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Final Destination 6: The Final Stand

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Not a crystal ball Bihco (talk) 06:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * You want to delete something that doesn't hurt anyone. Please this is necessary, come on give an opportunity to this guy. He's talking about his work. Honestly I read their article and is good I know that this are rules from here but he deserves a chance. I check his profile on Wattpad and is trustworthy (http://www.wattpad.com/user/GDGS92). Please reconsider this! WP:RFD#KEEP (talk) 03:22, 18 September 2011
 * deserves a chance is not a valid criteria on Wikipedia (if may want to convince NYT journalist that the guy deserves a chance, if then NYT writes an article - only then we'll be able to consider it). Ipsign (talk) 10:05, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with GJUSTIN, this doesn't hurt anyone. In my opinion I think that this is article is well written has reliable references and sounds like an interesting story. Also I verified their account on Wattpad and is reliable source too so this page deserves to stay right here. If you want to see his profile check here (http://www.wattpad.com/user/GDGS92). WP:RFD#KEEP (talk) 03:43, 18 September 2011


 * Delete Unless I've misunderstood, this is not even an article about a future Final Destination sequel, but about a screenplay someone has written without any official approval or recognition Moswento (talk | contribs) 07:53, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:GNG, WP:NOTCRYSTAL Ipsign (talk) 10:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per the notability criteria for future films, and per Moswento. Future films aren't supposed to have articles until they begin filming. Furthermore, contrary to what GJUSTIN and GJOHTO wrote above, this article has no reliable sources at all. The only sources provided are material that the screenplay writer posted on Wattpad (a free file-sharing site) themselves. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:29, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per WP:CRYSTAL. SL93 (talk) 19:50, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin: GJUSTIN and GHONTO were identified as sockpuppets of article creator, and IMHO we're very close to WP:SNOW here. Ipsign (talk) 05:34, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 15:11, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per Wikipedia is not for things made up one day. Topic is not featured in reliable sources. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 15:18, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Why are we even arguing about this? I COMPLETELY agree with what Moswento and Ipsign said. It's just a spec script from wattpad. And the fact that it's "not hurting anyone" is not a valid reason. That's not how Wikipedia works. And the script has terrible grammar and spelling, as far as I'm concerned this page is just irrelevant. And yes, it does include 1 reliable reference, but this isn't even involving New Line Cinemas or Warner Bros. It's just a fan-made script. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.201.162 (talk • contribs) 20:00, September 19, 2011
 * There's no argument about it. There is only one person defending the article, the creator, and he used sockpuppets to pretend there is support for the article. All these accounts have been blocked. The article will be deleted per WP:SNOW soon. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 02:54, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - this article is not an exception to WP:CRYSTAL. Contrary to the sockpuppeteer's assertion, as a precisionist this article hurts me by breaking the guidelines!!! (was that over-the-top?). ŞůṜīΣĻ ¹98¹ Speak 23:56, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Hi, I am here to protect my work from vandalism. I create this account to clean out my image, because I never authorizes to create this article about my screenplay. The only official pages that I have is on Facebook and Wattpad. Furthermore someone hack my Wattpad account, because I never put my script there, just an introduction of my work. Unfortunately they stole my introduction too. Please delete this immediately and my apologizes, because I'm very embarrassed for all the conflicts that this cause to the Wikipedia Community. GDGS (talk) 21:48, 21 September 2011
 * The thing is, Wikipedia will not seek your permission to cover your work if it meets our notability requirements, nor will we delete an article about your work just because you're asking. There is no such thing as an official Wikipedia page about anything, and any page that portrays itself as such is deleted on sight. Think of Wikipedia coverage as something that shows how others are describing your work at face value once they see it, without seeking any input from the work's creator. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 03:59, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * While what you've said it technically correct, we need to consider possibility of copyright violation, which (as we all know) is not tolerated on Wikipedia. Wording by User:GDGS (specifically: "they stole my introduction too") might imply potential copyvio (it is not clear if this allegedly stolen introduction has made it into the article). Due to extreme sensitivity of copyright issues, I've tagged the article as a potential copyvio, and listed the page on Copyright problems, to let specialists discuss it with the author. Ipsign (talk) 04:39, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I would also consider the page a copyright violation against Warner Bros. and New Line Cinemas, as well as any other parties assosciated with The Final Destination series. If a sixth film were to actually be created, then it would be confusing to have two Final Destination 6 articles on Wikipedia. Unless I've misunderstood, the article is about a fan-made script, meaning that it has absolutely no relation to the actual series, making the article confusing and a copyright violation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3193th (talk • contribs) 23:20, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ...this said... Delete. No evidence of pre-release hype in reliable third-party references. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 04:10, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes! I'm complaining about the copyright, but I don't want conflicts with this guys. They contacted me on my official page in Facebook asking for forgiveness and I forgive them. The main reason why this is in Wikipedia is because one person in Facebook create a fan page about my script and one of them create the article right here without my permission and then this happens. However my Wattpad account was not hacked it was a mistake from my assistant. She published the unofficial first draft of the script instead of the introduction. I know this because she contacted me one hour ago. As I said before I don't want problems and this is just a unfinished screenplay in which I'm working. The only thing that I really want is the removing of this page and that's it! GDGS (talk) 05:39, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well... we're not Wikileaks (nor are we affiliated with them in any way). Copyright issues are dealt with quite seriously here, and if an article is found to be by itself in violation of someone's copyright, then that alone trumps all other considerations, and the contentious material gets removed, no questions asked. But this discussion is headed where we won't even have to look into that. --  Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 20:10, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
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