Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Final out of the 2021 National League Division Series


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The result was redirect to 2021 National League Division Series. Daniel (talk) 22:33, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Final out of the 2021 National League Division Series

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Fails WP:GNG as an occurrence that has not demonstrated WP:LASTING impact. Contested PROD, partial reason for contesting is a comparison to Kirk Gibson's 1988 World Series home run. That 1988 home run has demonstrated LASTING, while Wilmer Flores' checked swing strikeout has not been discussed in the press in the two weeks since it happened. This situation is closer to Wild Card Wednesday, the final game of the 2011 season, which some editors insisted was notable from the day that it happened, but has had no LASTING coverage since. The final out of the Giants/Dodgers series is covered by 2021 NLDS and material can be included on Flores' article and the checked swing article. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:32, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:32, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2021 National League Division Series, where is it already discussed in a more appropriate level of detail. I'd say Denkinger's botched call in '85, which doesn't have an article, btw, is a better comparison that the Gibson homer.  No indication that WP:LASTING is met. Hog Farm Talk 18:37, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That's WP:RECENTISM for ya. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:43, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Hog Farm's target. I agree it was a terrible call. And I know it was talked about, but this is quite a few bytes to describe a half of a swing/bad call. Minutia Lightburst (talk) 18:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 18:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 18:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete... improbable search term and is already covered in sufficient detail at the proposed target article. This article goes into way too much detail on what was just one out of a baseball game. Spanneraol (talk) 20:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:CHEAP? Lightburst (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Not policy. Wizardman  00:15, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Might as well redirect per above, WP:CHEAP may not be policy but it's right there's no good reason not to redirect. Bestagon ⬡ 04:36, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * But there is also no reason for such a redirect as no one is going to be search for that term on wikipedia. Do we also need articles for the first out of the World Series? Or the last out of the third inning of the sixth game of the season? This is ridiculous. Spanneraol (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm also against a redirect because I don't see it as a relevant search term nor do I think there is any likelihood of this being split out into its own article in the future. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:38, 29 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Merge or redirect to 2021 National League Division Series. No need for a separate article when this can be covered perfectly adequately within the series article. Rlendog (talk) 18:51, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to 2021 National League Division Series. Sources in the article demonstrate that this play was unusual and controversial, but it's WP:TOOSOON to say if this play has the WP:PERSISTENCE of other historic baseball plays like José Bautista's bat flip or the Shot Heard 'Round the World (baseball). Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:42, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Changing to Redirect as a full merge would be overkill and WP:UNDUE. Perhaps the controversy surrounding the call warrants an additional sentence or two in the section about the game but not the level of detail as in the full article. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 15:11, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to 2021 National League Division Series per above. Newfiebluejay (talk) 14:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Not sure that a merge is needed; there's already a decent description at the proposed target. Moving over much would result in WP:UNDUE weight. Hog Farm Talk 15:03, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to 2021 National League Division Series#Game 5 as proposed above. No need for a separate article at this point. --Enos733 (talk) 15:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.