Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fine Art Price list


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The result was delete. Sr13 05:09, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Fine Art Price list

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List with a very unclear but extremely wide scope ("the fair market value of most artists today"), no obvious inclusion criteria, no explanation of what kind of art is included (paintings? sculptures? multiples? drawings?), ... It is a directory of auction results more than an encyclopedic article, and we already have the article List of most expensive paintings which covers the most obvious (and newsworthy) cases of art sales. The list, created June 5th, is already out of date (Francis Bacon is given with a max of 10 million, but last month one painting was sold for 52 million dollars). Basically, an unmaintainable directory with an unclear definition. The other problems, like needing to be cleaned up and a removal of the WP:OWN issues, are not a reason for deletion. Fram 10:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 12:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete per WP:NOT, this is practically a sales catalogue. In any case, something like the market value for any given artist is dynamic and inappropriate for an encyclopedia entry.  Ark yan  &#149; (talk) 15:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete An interesting resource, but not encyclopedaic. Despite the various sources listed, I am also concerned that this might be a copyvio of some other site. Brianyoumans 18:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete a touch reluctantly; accurate info of this sort has to paid for; like Brianyoumans I think there is a copyvio concern. The Francis Bacon error has been mentioned; to take the first item on the list, Hans von Aachen, to suggest that the maximum "fair market value" of a painting by him is $17,900 is just absurd - a good one would go for far more than that. Perhaps this is the current record because no major one has been auctioned for a length of time. Johnbod 19:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete unless someone capable takes it in hand. If this can't be done properly it shouldn't be done. I think i would be possible to do, there are not too many to maintain if one is devoted to it, the info is compilation not OR, the use of ranges deals with the variability, and how can this be copyvio? Information is not yet subject to copyright. Copyright violation is serious-- both a violation of our rules and a violation of the law, and accusations of it should not be made without some actual evidence.DGG 00:43, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Compilation copyrights exist in UK, and I think in US law. Johnbod 03:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If you copy someone else's compilation, but not if you make your own compilation of information available from various sources. Tyrenius 03:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, but this seems to use one main source. Johnbod 17:08, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Userfy it or move it into project space (WikiProject Arts?). This list has has WP:OWN issues, but  is new and the intentions are good.  I doubt it is a clear case of copyvio, but to ensure that it isnt, each entry would need to be properly sourced. John Vandenberg 03:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete This seems inappropriate and can become an ill advised precedent. Albeit well done and interesting, so far. It can get out of hand, quickly Modernist 03:02, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


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