Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Finish Line Motorsports Marketing


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Salvio giuliano 23:50, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Finish Line Motorsports Marketing

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. Only one proper reference on the page. Courtesy ping @Onel5969 as original draftifier. ~ Eejit43 ( talk ) 23:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Despite being open since 1997, this company still has yet to make a mark on the racing scene. Once that happens, the page could be recreated.  Until then, the company is, sadly, not notable enough. TH1980 (talk) 00:54, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Advertising, Companies, Motorsport,  and Indiana.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:20, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - Complete lack of SIGCOV in sources, can only find two sources covering this entity, TobyChristie.com, and Beyond the Flag , which are strictly WP:ROUTINE and don't provide any claims to significance. Making announcements that you "intend to compete" in NASCAR does not make a team notable. The TobyChristie.com source also has interesting lines such as On its website, Finish Line Motorsports Marketing states that it has been in operation since 1997. The company claims to have had a presence in marketing within the worlds of NASCAR and IndyCar., not even verifying the information included. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 12:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete. Per lack of notability. Probably, we have a WP:TOOSOON case here. Suitskvarts (talk) 12:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * TOOSOON or are they pulling everyone's chain? They are not on the entry list for the race that these sources say they wanted to compete in, which is taking place today. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 13:37, 12 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - The subject is both a racing team and a company that fails WP:NCORP, WP:ATHLETE, and teams and clubs are expected to demonstrate notability by the general notability guideline WP:GNG. AmshitBalcon (talk) 14:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete - As the person who made the original article, I realized that it lacks a lot of notability, and shouldn't have been made into an article in the first place. If there is a slight chance of them making a start this year (which they probably won't), I would say this could be restored. So for now, I request for it to be deleted. Tyman9348 (talk) 18:58, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
 * To be fair, if you didn't start it, surely some IP user would have. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 01:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Switch back to a draft - I think that the article should be moved back to a draft. I agree with everyone above in that it's not ready for mainspace, especially with the limited details we know about the team and how they have yet to attempt a Cup Series race. I just edited the article, adding that the team's debut is now scheduled to be at Talladega in April according to a tweet from Frontstretch reporter Jared Haas: https://twitter.com/RealJaredHaas/status/1634320053410623493 He also states in this tweet that he spoke to the owner of the team who also stated that the team has 2 Next Gen cars and 6 employees, so that's some details. Given that these details are now known and the team has a new planned race to debut and and they have a partnership with an existing team (RBR), I don't think the article should be completely deleted (and if it was, I agree with what User:GhostOfDanGurney said above). What if the team actually does attempt to qualify for that race? Additionally, on a different but related note, is it possible that the user who moved the article back to mainspace is the same person as User:Zrcook610/User:Zacharycook597 (these accounts were blocked)? Both User:Zackyboyman and one of the blocked accounts share the same first name and if you look at each of their user contribution pages, the person behind each account has attempted to change page titles without explanation and moved draft articles (such as Chuck Buchanan Jr's) to mainspace when they are not yet ready to go in mainspace or articles that had previously been in mainspace and moved to become drafts. (I know this isn't the right place to start that discussion but IDK where the right place is for that conversation/investigation.) Cavanaughs (talk) 09:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * What if the team actually does attempt to qualify for that race? They would still need to meet WP:NCORP regardless of whether they attempt to qualify for one race or whether they race out the season. Tweets can never be used to establish notability, and are generally unreliable as a source period. I agree with your assessment of the user who reverted the draftification, but I disagree that this subject is even ready for a draft. I'm not convinced that this isn't some weird hoax/meme. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 10:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, Per above fails notability.Alex-h (talk) 13:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails notability as of right now. If they somehow even make a start (which is looking more and more unlikely as time progresses), it still needs to pass WP:NCORP. Nascar9919 (talk) 21:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above fails WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 06:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.