Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Finish Ticket


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The result was   delete. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Finish Ticket

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I've undeleted this article per a request at WP:REFUND because the deleting admin didn't make it clear as to whether or not he was deleting as an A7 or as an uncontested PROD. The article has 2 sources that may or may not be reliable and I think that needs to be decided here. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:54, 6 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I am the article's creator and would like to keep the page. According to WP:BAND, a band is notable if it meets at least one of twelve criteria.  When Finish Ticket won the local band contest to open the Not So Silent Night concert in San Francisco in 2010, they established themselves as the most prominent "bay area" band.  This is more than enough to establish them as the most prominent band in the local scene of Alameda, California.  Thus they meet the criteria: "7. Has won or placed in a major music competition." and "8. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city." As for verification, the band's notability was covered by East Bay Express, an established newspaper, and in an article on the website of KITS, an established radio network.  Both articles are cited on the Finish Ticket page. Bwallace722 (talk) 01:53, 6 July 2011 (UTC) — Bwallace722 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - local interest only. Rklawton (talk) 02:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Rklawton, I apologize for persisting, but criterion 8 of WP:BAND says that a band must be the "most prominent of the LOCAL scene of a city" to be notable enough to justify a page, and Finish Ticket is demonstrably the most prominent band of the local San Francisco scene. Why is that not sufficient? Bwallace722 (talk) 06:43, 6 July 2011 (UTC) — Bwallace722 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete A local talent contest does not equate to a major music competition, and opening a concert run by a local radio station does not make them the most prominent representative of the Almeda music scene. The East Bay Express is a local tabloid with a circulation of less than 100,000, and Live 105 (KITS) radio is, again, local interest only; neither makes for a good RS. Yunshui (talk) 07:14, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — —Tom Morris (talk) 07:46, 6 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - "won a Battle of the Bands sponsored by a local paper" is not the same as, or even particularly similar to, "most prominent member of a local music scene"! See WP:NOCAREBAND. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:33, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as the one who originally PRODded this (I personally feel it meets A7, but my interpretation of it seems a bit broader than many others); the citations given show this band is off to a good start, but isn't there yet. If they do make it, we can certainly make an article on them, but we can wait until then.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 22:22, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Lack of significant coverage in independent WP:RS so fails WP:GNG. Mtking (talk) 02:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
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