Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Finn Hartstein


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep with no prejudice to re-nomination for deletion if the subject would like to expand on their rationale. Daniel (talk) 01:48, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Finn Hartstein

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This is a procedural nomination started by the article's subject, per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. I am neutral. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:29, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: he is a World Championships silver medalist in a small sport. He meets WP:SPORTCRIT and the information isn't slanderous or anything like that. Would it be easier on the subject if the picture was deleted? Geschichte (talk) 18:28, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
 * - Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing.
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 * --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:46, 14 December 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep his wins make him notable. Nothing slanderous about the article and the photo is an "action shot" of him. Oaktree b (talk)
 * Comment if this is per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE then please can the details of the actual request be given?  Chumpih. (talk) 07:27, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * , See here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:12, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks . Suspect the next step should be to get someone to attest that this is a valid request.  Let's see what we can do.   Chumpih. (talk) 18:26, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Had no joy via an email to an Oversighter. The oversighter indicated that it's not possible to infer user identiy from the IP address alone.  So without some other validation, I don't see how we can treat this request as legitimate.  I'm unsure how to proceed.  Chumpih. (talk) 12:50, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - we don't actually know that the request is from the article's subject . I would urge caution in deleting it. This request may be from a hostile source so any judgment should be solely based on standard notability assessments.  Velella  Velella Talk  16:44, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Agree that this could be risky.  if some Admin or similar were to attest that this is a legitimate request, would you be satisfied with the deletion? Chumpih. (talk) 18:26, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I would rate this article as marginally notable but its loss would not be significant for Wikipedia or the sport. If this is a genuine request, I would judge that we should defer to the subject's own wish.  Velella  Velella Talk 21:16, 21 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable as a world championship silver medalist and European championship gold medalist. The IP could be anyone. If it is the subject, then the only "sensitive data" there is the date of birth, which could easily be removed. -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for now - As someone who requested my own article to be deleted, I sympathize. However, I also requested it myself and presented why I wanted it deleted. Thankfully, the community agreed and it was deleted. At this point, we have no clue why he wants it deleted. He is clearly a notable person who qualifies for an article and as other have stated, there is nothing weird or worrisome about the article from a reader perspective. But, for now, I do not know why he wants this article deleted, so until then, I say keep. Very open minded in the future if the community is provided more insight. Missvain (talk) 04:47, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Like Missvain, I had to request deletion of an article about me. In this case, we do not have sufficient information to conclude that this request is either genuine or well-founded. Cullen328 (talk) 01:54, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, unless it can be verified that the request is genuine then it should be kept. Suonii180 (talk) 00:21, 28 December 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.