Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fire It Up (EP) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. -- Cirt (talk) 04:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Fire It Up (EP)
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This keeps getting re-created by the same author. He promised that he would add sources, but the only sources he added are primary. The last several AFDs have turned up absolutely no sources whatsoever, and the article has been G4'd several times. I decided not to G4 again due to the sources. Delete and salt. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 05:22, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment major artist, EP picked up by Atlantic Records after KR gained popularity. To the contesting author: here are some links/notes: Rolling stone:no review, but rating, SPIN: purchasing rights, Great rock discography: tracks, release dates, formats, Rolling stone: (excerpt) He then signed to indie label Continuum, which released 1993's The Polyfuze Method and the 1994 heavy metal-leaning EP Fire It Up. Both failed to reach an audience beyond Rock's local Detroit following. and also here, Billboard, indie finalist list for heavy metal genre '94, allmusic: just standard track, info, discogs: tracks. Maybe this combined with info from one of his books could make a standalone article. - Theornamentalist (talk) 17:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Tell me how any of those are non-trivial. The allmusic entry is blank, for starters. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 22:36, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I didn't vote keep, just trying to help out the author, cos I assume they might have better sources for Kid Rock than I could find in a moment. They are trivial, but the EP is under a major record label and he's a big star; I wouldn't be against a merge. - Theornamentalist (talk) 23:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The EP wasn't under Atlantic; it was under a non-notable third party label. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 23:54, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I apologize, he bought it from Continuum" and licensed them under Atlantic. I gave the wrong link above. Here is the correct one. - Theornamentalist (talk) 00:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 12:00, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a recording by a prominent artist, which has been rated in the Rolling Stone album guide and mentioned in Spin. Furthermore, as indicated by Theornamentalist's cite to Billboard above, the National Association of Independent Record Distributors nominated this recording for Best Heavy Metal Album in its Indie Awards in 1994. I would give this recording the benefit of the doubt as to notability. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:43, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are tons of articles on Wikipedia about music singles that have less than half of the information thats on the Fire It Up article, and they've been there for years and never get deleted or even flagged. This was the only EP Kid Rock ever released, its included with most full-length LP discographies of Kid Rock. This probably doesn't matter, but its significant to Kid Rock's career for being the first time he recorded a country-music song and the first time he released "I Am The Bullgod" (one of his biggest early hits). Someone looking up Kid Rock information on Wikipedia definitely deserves to see an article about the Fire It Up EP! Its an important piece of Kid Rock's career and people deserve the see the album cover, track listings, and musicians that played on the record. The sources Metropolitan90 and Theornamentalist gave are better than 70% of the sources and references on Wikipedia anyway. Seriously, compare this article to most articles about contemporary music singles. Please keep the Fire It Up article.--Mrblinky (talk) 02:22, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy userfy This was undeleted and userfied via WP:REFUND (currently at this section, but it may later be archived). The user was instructed to contact User:Tone before un-userfying, and by Mrblinky's contribs, it would appear such communication has not yet occurred. -- N Y  Kevin  @126, i.e. 02:00, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 *  Delete & salt the inclusion bar is pretty clear. being mentioned or listed is not a substitute for substantive sources. Spartaz Humbug! 10:23, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep. I agree with the reasoning presented by Metropolitan90 and Mrblinky above. I'm not aware of an existing policy on EPs; were this an album, it would meet WP:NALBUM. Given the debate over this article, if there is still opposition to it, might I suggest that a better way forward than an AfD would be to consider a merge with I Am the Bullgod? Bondegezou (talk) 12:17, 25 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment. I would encourage anyone who is still in doubt about this article to take another look. There are sources cited which I believe are good enough to justify keeping the article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:32, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - it is now a perfectly acceptable stub and well sourced. - Theornamentalist (talk) 17:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.