Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First Aid Africa


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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure)  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  05:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

First Aid Africa

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Does not seem to meet notability guidelines. My search came up with little more than this organization's social media postings. I could not find any in depth coverage. 331dot (talk) 12:20, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Concur. Searching on them uncovers their own site and social media presences, articles form schools they recruit at, and funding announcements. Oddly, given their low profile, they have been around for some time; the U.K. Parliament congratulated them on their 5th year as a registered charity (and their 8th year in existence): https://www.parliament.uk/edm/2016-17/824 cshirky (talk) 12:36, 24 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Me too: I can't find any indications on Google that anybody other than the organization itself discusses it. Being congratulated by Parliament doesn't confer notability. The article has been tagged as unsourced since July 2016, but no attempt has been made to add sources AFAICS.  Bishonen &#124; talk 12:51, 24 January 2017 (UTC).
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:45, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:45, 24 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article was created in 2011 by an editor that hasn't been active in the last few years. An IP editor removed some of the historical detail in 2012. Looking back, the article had been always been in a poor state. A lack of categorisation and the article not being marked as belonging to any wiki projects won't have helped either. I can see that the name of this organisation will cause some difficulties when searching. It is a small organisation and was formed relatively recently, in 2008. However, there is coverage of this organisation and their activities in multiple newspaper articles: Evening Chronicle 2012, Norwich Evening News 2012, The Shetland Times 2013, Daily Record 2015, Third Force News 2015, Milngavie Herald 2015, Evening Express 2016, East Lothian Courier 2016. Perhaps most significant is the review in the Student BMJ 2011 and coverage in The Scotsman 2016. There is sufficient coverage to meet WP:ORGDEPTH. Drchriswilliams (talk) 09:16, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding those things, but I'm not as certain that they meet ORGDEPTH. Most of those sources are simply announcements of students working with the charity, and not 'deep coverage' as the guidelines states; "Deep coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond routine announcements".  It also specifically states that "routine communiqués announcing such matters as the hiring or departure of personnel" as not being sufficient. 331dot (talk) 11:56, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I think the first selection of sources that I listed show that there has been interest in this voluntary work from the press in a wide range of geographical locations, also substantiating the claims that people from multiple universities have been involved, which is interesting given the small size of this relatively new organisation. I think it goes some way to showing some WP:GNG. Setting the organisation up led to the founder, Sam Abrahams, appearing in a feature in Daily Record 2009. The Student BMJ is a peer-reviewed journal- I realise the full article requires a subscription to view but it is 700 words in length which certainly extends beyond any routine announcement. Another journal article I hadn't listed was Politics First 2012. An article in the Scotsman, a national newspaper, from August 2016 describes the work of this organisation alongside other Scottish projects in Malawi. Drchriswilliams (talk) 13:13, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:25, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I am unpersuaded by the argument that this organization is new or was formed relatively recently. It has been around for several years, and has generated few descriptions of it or its work beyond occasional and brief media mentions. The Scotsman article is about Africa, not this organization, and has only two sentences about it, in which the reporter did not observe any of the work, but instead saw a graduation ceremony. cshirky (talk) 12:38, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * keep per Drchriswilliams--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:04, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:24, 8 February 2017 (UTC)


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