Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/First generation college student writing


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. I would be willing to refund this to userspace upon request in the understanding that it wouldn't be recreated without reframing. I appreciate that hard work has gone into this, but effort alone cannot turn a guide into a Wikipedia article; their purposes are distinct. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:01, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

First generation college student writing

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Per my comments at the education noticeboard, this page, although a reasonable piece of undergraduate writing, is more of an essay than a Wikipedia article, and has too much overlap with first-generation college students in the United States. – Teratix ₵ 14:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. – Teratix ₵ 14:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete - not a suitable topic, content is unhelpful to readers, and it is written like a WikiHow essay (and apparently is an essay). This is not a depository for student essays, they should, at most, be kept on a flash drive and then never looked at (do kids today even use flash drives anymore?). Seriously, though, this is just a matter of the topic of the article not being suitable for WP, regardless of the style of the writing. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  14:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment the current article is a (referenced) essay, unsuitable for Wikipedia, but I'm not totally convinced that there is no overall possible subject here. A slightly broader article on the difficulties faced by students coming from non-college backgrounds might be possible, especially if it had a title whose meaning was unambiguously clear at first glance. There is certainly a lot written on the subject. It would fit in with Educational inequality but that's already a very long hotch-potch of an article. It's a form of educational disadvantage, but our article Disadvantaged is pretty awful. I'm not opposed to deleting this current article on TNT grounds, but nor am I opposed to someone re-writing a closely related article, if they do it properly. Elemimele (talk) 15:13, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * As the instructor of the class in which this article was developed, I appreciate your comments, Elemimele and Atsme. This first year / first generation undergraduate was really proud of the work they did here as well as of the sources they compiled. And for what it's worth, contributing to Wikipedia on an article of personal importance for this student was hugely empowering to her. As the class is now over, I can't really ask the student to revisit her work, but I would be happy to try and revise this article, although I would likely need some pointers on how to do it properly. JayKatJay (talk) 06:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep - it is actually a notable topic with a very good pool of reliable sources. First rule of thumb when determining N is that we do not judge the current state of the article or state of sourcing. I am of the mind that with some copy editing, and a little assistance provided to the author/article creator, it could easily become "encyclopedic" which would actually prove far more beneficial to readers seeking knowledge, far more so than the latest football scores, or movie ratings. Atsme 💬 📧 16:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  19:28, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete: There's an article here based on the sourcing, but it's about the high school/college differences that students experience, not what this talks about... Essay or a Linked In post perhaps. I might have sent to draft, but there's too much here that we can't use vs what can be saved. Right idea, wrong topic perhaps. Oaktree b (talk) 20:02, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 12:34, 24 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.