Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind

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Non-notable DOS video game. Natg 19 (talk) 20:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Taiwan. Natg 19 (talk) 20:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment : The Chinese Version of the page seems to have some sources, but I can't possibly evaluate them. ApLundell (talk) 20:39, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Weak keep This is a retro game with all of its coverage offline in WP:OFFLINE sources, and there is no indication in their nomination that the nom checked the relevant print sources of the time for reviews. The Chinese version of the article cites 2 separate magazine reviews, which leads me to believe there may be more out there. Until the nominator demonstrates they have checked Chinese gaming magazines indepth, I don't think the article should be deleted offhand based on a cursory Google search. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:33, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment Nothing on Newspapers.com but the company website is probably worth checking for information if it exists. Timur9008 (talk) 16:01, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. I don't have access to these sources, but I found them through the "References" section of zh:炎龍騎士團外傳 風之紋章: 超級檔案夾：炎龍騎士團外傳 風之紋章. 軟體世界 (台灣: 智冠科技). 1997年3月, 95: 48頁. 蔡易霖、蘇竑嶂. 青出於藍，更勝於藍！ 炎龍騎士團外傳～風之紋章. 新遊戲時代 (台灣: 第三波文化事業). 1998年3月, 57: 166頁. 鄭博文、曾克博. 退步？進步？ 炎龍騎士團外傳～風之紋章. 遊戲世界 (台灣: 智冠科技). 1998年3月, 165: 165頁. 蔡易霖、蘇竑嶂. 青出於藍，更勝於藍！ 炎龍騎士團外傳～風之紋章. 新遊戲時代 (台灣: 第三波文化事業). 1998年3月, 57: 164頁. 軟體世界 (台灣: 智冠科技). 1998年3月, 108. <li>新遊戲時代 (台灣: 第三波文化事業). 1998年4月, 58: 48頁.</li> <li>遊戲世界 (台灣: 智冠科技). 1998年4月, 165: 18頁.</li> </ol>From Google Translate:<ol> <li>Super Folder: Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind. Software World (Taiwan: Zhiguan Technology). March 1997, 95: 48 pages.</li> <li>Cai Yilin, Su Hongzhang. Green out of blue, better than blue! Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind. New Game Era (Taiwan: Third Wave Cultural Enterprise). March 1998, 57: 166.</li> <li>Zheng Bowen, Zeng Kebo. Regression? progress? Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind. Game World (Taiwan: Zhiguan Technology). March 1998, 165: 165 pages.</li> <li>Cai Yilin, Su Hongzhang. Green out of blue, better than blue! Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind. New Game Era (Taiwan: Third Wave Cultural Enterprise). March 1998, 57: 164.</li> <li>Software World (Taiwan: Zhiguan Technology). March 1998, 108.</li> <li>The New Game Era (Taiwan: The Third Wave Cultural Enterprise). April 1998, 58: 48 pages.</li> <li>Game World (Taiwan: Zhiguan Technology). April 1998, 165: 18 pages.</li> </ol>These are magazine articles that have reviewed the computer game. From the "Reception" section: 電玩雜誌《CGW》中文版認為《炎龍騎士團外傳》在劇情結構、配樂品質有著不錯的表現，[3]但是在創新度與前作《炎龍騎士團2》相比無太大變化，且有遊戲存檔方面的臭蟲、程式的人工智慧不佳、操作手冊編寫有錯誤等問題，[4]整體表現僅給予五顆星中的兩顆星評價. [3] 而《新遊戲時代》雜誌則評析《炎龍騎士團外傳》有著華麗、不遜於電視遊樂器的戰鬥畫面，不過缺乏更新一步的創新內容，[2]整體表現拿下79分的評價. [5] From a Google Translate of the "Reception" section: The Chinese version of the video game magazine "CGW" believes that "The Story of the Yanlong Knights" has a good performance in the plot structure and soundtrack quality,[3] but compared with the previous work "The Yanlong Knights 2" in terms of innovation, there is not much change, and There are bugs in the game save, poor artificial intelligence in the program, and errors in the operation manual. [4] The overall performance is only rated two out of five stars. [3] The "New Game Era" magazine commented that "The Legend of the Yanlong Knights" has a gorgeous battle screen that is not inferior to a video game console, but lacks newer innovative content. [2] The overall performance scored 79 points. [5] There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Flame Dragon Plus: Marks of Wind to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 08:47, 4 September 2023 (UTC) </li></ul> Relisting comment: Relisting. While not essential, it would help if some of these new sources were linked so editors could assess them to see if they helped establish notability of the article subject. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 21:54, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * If I understand correctly, it looks like they're offline sources. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 21:58, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe some editors are familiar with these sources. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:15, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


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