Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flaps Podcast


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I'm sorry Mark but there's a consensus here that your podcast isn't notable at this time. Maybe later if it gets more coverage. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:17, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Flaps Podcast

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This podcast is not notable. It received the equivalent of a "third place" "award" in a barely notable award presentation, and it was listed with another several dozen "finalists" in another barely notable award presentation. There are no independent sources which discuss this subject in-depth, it fails WP:N, and hence should be deleted. Russavia ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 16:23, 11 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak keep Article is encyclopedic and informative.  Wp:notability not established but appears possible. North8000 (talk) 17:25, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete: I found no significant coverage. SL93 (talk) 22:27, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:50, 12 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JohnCD (talk) 17:45, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

 Keep I hope I am editing this right. I am one of the producers of Flaps Podcast; I thought making an award-winning podcast was difficult enough. But no - justifying its Wikipedia existence is more challenging!

I certainly question the argument of its lack of notability. "Third place" in a "barely notable award presentation"? The Sony Radio Awards are the premier radio awards in the UK; they are possibly the high-water-mark for radio awards in the world. To come third, in such awards, are indeed notable. If you've not heard of the awards, I'm sorry, but it doesn't invalidate their worth within that particular industry. Since this deletion note was created, I have modified the citation for the awards. The original web page supporting this fact had changed address. Also Flaps Podcast garnered success in the New York Festivals Awards. We have since gone on to create work for the British Civil Aviation Authority - proving how new media is "breaking through" to long-established industries. I could also point to references within print aviation magazines within the UK but there are no online references apart from this story http://www.flyer.co.uk/news/newsfeed.php?artnum=1154.

I make no apologies for wanting to keep a Wikipedia page for Flaps - it is a primary reference point for many people. I am grateful that we have a page - let's not forget, this page was approved in the first place. If Wikipedia is anything, surely it's a reference point for all new media, of which Flaps, as a high-standard, award-winning podcast, is very proudly a part. Deleting this page would be unfair on a non-profit making podcast that serves a community of aviators. It would certainly make me wonder what editorial processes go on at Wikipedia - this page is an accurate, impartial explanation of Flaps Podcast - an industry-leading production.

By all means have a fair vote - but at least listen to the podcast first. It's very well produced and even more well-received. (If I have edited this wrongly, I apologise.) Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.75.169.89 (talk) 00:06, 20 February 2012 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B  music  ian  02:25, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete doesn't pass WP:WEB at this time. Per the above, appears to be some COI/SPAM going on as well. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  23:28, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
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