Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flashfire (novel)


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The result was keep. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 20:46, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Flashfire (novel)

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Not notable per WP:BK. Is already mentioned on page of author, that seems sufficient enough mention. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 09:02, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ifnord (talk) 02:15, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to StarFist series - can't find any supporting references for this book in particular, but the Starfist series as a whole just about reaches WP:SIGCOV based on this review in Publisher's Weekly and this review in issue 332 of Starlog magazine (text only I'm afraid). FOARP (talk) 08:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The review notes: "Sherman, David and Cragg, Dan. Flashfire. Jan. 2006. 336p. Del Rey, $19.95 (0-345-46054-5). Sherman and Cragg's justifiability popular Starfist series continues with a vivid depiction of ground combat worthy of ranking with Heinlein's classic Starship Troopers (1953). The planet Ravenette has seceded from the Confederation, and this threatens to reveal the secret of the alien Skins. The 34th FIST (Fleet Initial Strike Team), which already knows about the Skinks, gets the job of suppressing the rebels and find, somewhat to its dismay, that they are a well-armed and -trained infantry. Charlie Bass has his first experience of leading in combat as an officer, and the marines of the 34th face what can only be described as a slogging match. The development of respect beteween the opponents recalls the American Civil War, as does the development of disrespect on both sides for their governments. At this high level of accomplishment, Sherman and Cragg can keep the Starfirst series going as long as they can please with no fear of ever displeasing military-sf fans."  The review notes: "Fans of military SF who appreciate down-and-dirty ground action will enjoy Sherman and Cragg's hyperrealistic look at the infantry combat of the future. The marines of the 34th Marine Fleet Initial Strike Team (FIST) face a more conventional, and perhaps more deadly, opponent than they did in their last outing, A World of Hurt (2004). ... This book not only entertains but makes the reader reconsider the costs of government secrecy."  The review notes: "The authors, former military men, convincingly relay troop maneuvering — to the point that it frequently smothers the action." This review provides less substantial coverage of the subject compared to the previous two reviews. There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Flashfire to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 09:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)</ul>
 * Notability (books) notes: "A book is notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria: 1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book." The substantial reviews in Booklist and Publisher's Weekly clearly establish that the book passes Notability (books). Cunard (talk) 09:57, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep, meets WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG with the three above reviews (btw, the EW review although small is fine, reminds me of haiku, short but sweet. :)) (thankyou :)). Coolabahapple (talk) 08:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

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 * Keep per Cunard. I am surprised to see those many sources. Shivkarandholiya12 (talk) 12:07, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


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