Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flatlander: Book One


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:42, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Flatlander: Book One

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non notable book. Article appears to have been created by the books author. No sources and google searches not finding any coverage. noq (talk) 08:22, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: A WP:SPA article on a book self-published through iUniverse. There is a review here but in my opinion that is insufficient for the WP:NBOOK criteria or broader WP:GNG. AllyD (talk) 11:05, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks like Blue Ink Reviews charges for their reviews, so they wouldn't be considered a RS on here. It looks like their Kirkus review was part of the site's paid service, although I will say that Kirkus is not really seen as a RS anymore by more than a few of us on here. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  09:34, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I hadn't noticed that payment tariff. (Pricy too - significantly more than I was paid in the past when reviewing for print publications.) AllyD (talk) 11:59, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:53, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:53, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Vermont-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:53, 25 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. I can't find anything to show notability for this book and it doesn't look like there is any coverage out there that was written by a independent, reliable source. Everything was either paid for by the author (or a representative) or it was written by the author himself. There isn't even any coverage from the book blogs and while those can't be used as a RS on here, the lack of chatter from that sector is sometimes fairly telling - especially for self-published or indie books. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  09:34, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment, "Kirkus is not really seen as a RS anymore by more than a few of us on here", coola tentatively raises hand ... but only if it is an old review from kirks, and would not rely on a later one for notability... Coolabahapple (talk) 15:47, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * True, very early KR reviews would likely be usable. I tend to use them if they're from the 1990s or earlier, but those are harder to come by sometimes - good point! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  10:01, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


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