Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flight Reacts


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  06:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Flight Reacts

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Flight Reacts

YouTuber who does not satisfy general notability or biographical notability. Naïve Google search shows that he is a much-followed YouTuber; we knew that. Much of the article is non-encyclopedic and non-neutral and is written from a fan viewpoint. Trimming all of the fancruft out might not leave much.

Submitted as a draft to AFC, then declined, then copied into article space (and so cannot be moved back into draft space).

The references appear twice, in different orders. This analysis is of the second list. The references are either YouTube, or passing mentions by Steph Curry of the subject, or unresolvable.
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 * Delete per nom. Article appears multiply problematic but YouTuber with no SIGCOV fails WP:GNG Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:26, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. no reliable coverage available. TheChronium  11:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Sources fail to demonstrate notability. Pbrks (talk) 13:48, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails GNG. SportsGuy789 (talk) 14:27, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I struggle to understand your viewpoint, all of the articles has been confirmed by Flight Reacts himself in a 40 minute video explaining his life experiences and is a complete replica of his own personal viewpoint on his life constructed into an articulate biography. There is no subjective bias this is exactly how he has explained his career. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mexith8670 (talk • contribs) 12:25 7 June (UTC)


 * Delete: fails all notability guidelines. Kaspadoo (talk) 12:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete for now I actually created the first Wikipedia article for FlightReacts here over a year ago in April of 2020 and it was deleted in this AFD. It looks like somebody tried to recreate the article there again in November and it got deleted too. I think he's probably on the cusp of notability, considering his somewhat popular music (several songs with millions of views and streams on Youtube, Spotify, Apple Music, and Soundcloud) and he has some independent coverage . But I don't think he merits an article yet. He may in the future, but there probably shouldn't be one now per WP:BALL.  Eric food  (talk &#124; contribs) 21:23 7 June (UTC)


 * Ericfood With all due respect isn't your point completely subjective? He doesn't have to have a page that is extremely informed as of now, but on the basis, he has nearly ten million followers on Youtube alone and has made a 40-minute video on his early and personal life which was referenced. How is this page any less informed than other content creators such as Ricegum and Adin Ross for instance? He 100 percent merits an article, he's extremely popular and has explained his come-up in great depth. I don't understand you're objection. Provided the information is objective and also informed on someone notable, what is the problem? Mexith8670 (talk • contribs) 12:25 7 June (UTC)
 * I based my decision on Wikipedia's policies. I understand that for a newer contributor such as yourself it might seem like Flight should obviously have an article. I was in the same place a year ago when I created the first iteration of his article. However Flight doesn't really meet the notability guidelines for WP:BLP because there isn't a lot of reliable coverage on him from secondary sources. I'd say that's the biggest obstacle in proving his notability. I know he has high numbers on his YouTube channel, but subscriber numbers are subject to change and not proof of notability. If you can find significant coverage from mostly secondary sources you could prove his notability. I'd recommend reading this essay on YouTube notability. Regarding your point on other YouTubers like Adin Ross and RiceGum, there are lots of YouTubers whose articles are regularly deleted in AfDs. To be honest I don't think Adin Ross meets the notability guidelines either, RiceGum has probably had enough independent coverage to merit an article though. This isn't to say I agree with the Wikipedia policies, I think they're a little too strict on the notability guidelines for popular YouTubers, but we have to follow the guidelines.  Eric food  (talk &#124; contribs) 06:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Note that User:82.8.90.24 has removed the deletion template from the article twice. CodeTalker (talk) 00:56, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This IP is almost 100% user Junefith. Same article edit history etc. It also raises questions over Mexith8670 who has edited exclusively the same articles and have made the same removals, per WP:DUCK.Koncorde (talk) 01:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


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