Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/FlipTop: The First Filipino Rap Battle League


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 21:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

FlipTop: The First Filipino Rap Battle League

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Non-notable video recording. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 17:43, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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 *  Weak delete Conditional keep - I can see an awful lot of hits online, but no reliable coverage. No newspaper articles, no serious blogs, etc., just Blogspot. Note that having millions of hits on YouTube does not guarantee notability. And despite its apparent popularity, I have never heard of it before, and I read the newspapers and watch the news everyday, which is a warning sign that there's probably not enough coverage at the moment. I'm willing to reconsider if someone finds a source; with the amount of hits I get on Google, there's got to be a reliable source out there. (Addendum) However the Philippine Star column having in-depth coverage, for me at least, this is notable by the smallest of margins. However, this is dependent on if several more sources are be found, which normally wouldn't be a problem since most Philippine media is in English and online. Given the difficulty that I had when finding sources, however, this could prove difficult for others as well. If more can't be found, then assume that my !vote is for delete. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:54, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Considering you !voted "weak keep" (on this AFD) with just half of a newspaper article devoted to the subject of that AFD, I was sorta expecting for something this is stronger than a "weak keep" but still weaker than a regular "keep" vote due to the in-depth coverage of the subject on an entire newspaper article.
 * Also, searching can be quite hard as "FlipTop"/"Flip top" returns a variety of potential sources, mostly about cigarettes. I dunno what should be a better search parameter to narrow down the results. – H T  D  12:40, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Conditional keep if better sources are found. Just snooping around, I've found two: GMA News says that the most popular Youtube channel in the Philippines is this one, and Saab Magalona's Philippine Star column has an in-depth (certainly not trivial) coverage. And it has also been pissing off PBA on AKTV viewers lol – H T  D  12:06, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 00:18, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 04:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems that no one wants to work on the article so this can be deleted w/out prejudice for recreation. – H T  D  17:44, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not notable, unsourcable, and incredibly non-encyclopedic. Not wikipedia material. There are two conditional keeps, that's it. The conditions were not met and from the comment above, and the original choice of the first, they apparently reverted to deletes, correct? --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 22:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, there's the Star coverage, so should it be deleted and recreated, then that could prove useful. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:12, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete, the star article mention above is a dead link, and the only significant coverage in a reliable source that I can find is the one listed in the article done by GMA. That being said, I am of the opinion that this does not pass WP:GNG.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 20:54, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * On my part, the Star link I linked above is working; it is the one on the article that's dead. – H T  D  14:13, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
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