Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Florida Basketball Association


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The result was delete. Huon (talk) 02:08, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Florida Basketball Association

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No evidence this meets WP:GNG, all sources are either unreliable, like OurSportsCentral, passing mentions, or press releases. No significant news coverage from mainstream media sources Delete. Secret account 21:56, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep - In response to the concerns previously mentioned I added several additional sources to the page, which include FL based newpapers that meet the qualifications of an RS. There are many articles all over wikipedia about independent sports leagues. They might not get national news coverage, however they are covered by RSs. As far as I know it doesn't state what level of notability it must have to meet WP:GNG. - Galatz (talk) 22:26, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 17:30, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 17:30, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 21 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - VERY low level minor league. When I do a search I find no evidence of continuing significant coverage from RS's.  The vast majority are self-published (including Word Press and Facebook). Rikster2 (talk) 14:07, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:40, 26 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete for lack of third party reliable sources. No continuing coverage either. Jrcla2 (talk) 00:16, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete all sources are not third party, Our Sports Central is self-published that all minor sports leagues use as a team website, nothing else on Google that I found that makes this organization meet WP:GNG. 166.172.185.40 (talk) 21:07, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Our Sports Central is not a self-published news site. The editor reviews releases before publishing and doesn't publish everything received. I just searched Google myself (news) and found these from the Miami Herald, the Sun Sentinel, and the Ledger: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article1986316.html http://www.sun-sentinel.com/florida-jewish-journal/news/miami-dade/fl-jjdc-basketball-0820-20140818-story.html http://www.theledger.com/article/20140724/NEWS/140729460 LightningMan (talk) 03:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The first source is written for the local "community" portion of the newspaper (this one is for the Aventura, Florida portion and is only published in that specific area, not the entire metro area) and it isn't subjected to strict editorial review. I got first-hand experience on how the publishing for the Miami Herald, having written pieces before on the community section of the Herald. The "community" portion is literally the only thing the Miami Herald doesn't check with scrutiny as its way too localized. So not reliable at all, and the other two newspapers are very localized news stories in the local "community" page as well, only published in the specific neighborhood (not metro area/city) where the basketball tourney was held, and was of limited release. All three sources listed doesn't help it meet WP:GNG as its routine coverage with questionable oversight. If there is proof that there are sources that isn't the local community zine page, I might reconsider. Secret account 03:57, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per comments above by Rikster, Jrcla and Secret. Non-notable low-level minor league basketball conference fails the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG and WP:ORG for lack of significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:29, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep: It seems like sports leagues above rec league level are generally kept around.  Teams though, not so much. LionMans Account (talk) 04:53, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and proof? Secret account 14:57, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * United States Basketball Association and deletion discussion, although it is 4 years old. Hasn't played a game, though the guy who "runs" the league is stil insisting there will be a season next year, again. LionMans Account (talk) 15:32, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The USBA article should be renominated ASAP. OTHERSTUFF, indeed.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:48, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I simply speedied it, league never came to play, won't survive AFD. Obvious A7. Thanks for linking the "other stuff exists". Secret account 17:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)


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