Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Florida District Key Club International


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 18:52, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Florida District Key Club International

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Non-notable club lacking GHits and GNEWS of substance. Tried to redirect to Key Club, but article keeps being recreated by author and IP sockpuppet.  ttonyb (talk) 03:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Administrative Keep. - This page is all of four days old and the log looks like it's the subject of an edit war. Is this organization notable? Give them a chance to make their case. Don't bite the noobs, don't create a hostile editing environment, etc. Key Club is a massive organization and I don't doubt that at least some district-level organizations of the group can get over the notability bar, given time to marshall their efforts at scouring up third-party coverage. There isn't even a discussion page started to explain why this article is the subject of a notability challenge. For goodness sake, start the page and open a dialog... Please withdraw this nomination, open a dialog with the creator, explain the situation, and give them 30 days to source things out. See if they can. It's way too early to pass judgment here, in my opinion. Carrite (talk) 03:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - Carrite makes a good argument. However, the creator has been on WP for 1 1/2 years and IMO should know how important sources are. The editors have been fighting over nonsense while they should have been finding reliable sources. The nom was a week and a half ago and I hate to be repetitive but that's ample time to at least give the impression they're interested in establishing notability. Meanwhile this is in article space further casting doubt on WP's quality. If they add reliable sources before AfD close I might change my vote, but at this point the article should be moved to a user talk page so they can work on it. For my own part I Googled and didn't find anything notable. Lionel (talk) 20:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge to Key Club International, per policy as clearly stated at WP:CLUB: "Individual chapters, divisions, departments, and other sub-units of notable organizations are only rarely notable enough to warrant a separate article. Information on chapters and affiliates should normally be merged into the article about the parent organization." --MelanieN (talk) 03:28, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Keeping (or even redirecting) state chapters of national orgs does not have consensus. Also, there are zero claims of notability in the article for this chapter; it should have been speedily deleted. Abductive  (reasoning) 08:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.